EVs cheaper for long-distance travel than petrol vehicles in South Africa

wingnut771 said:
88km/h ave speed? Were you hypermiling?
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No, we were driving the max speeds as frequently as possible. Vast majority of the route is 100km/h or 80km/h, a few spots with 120km/h zones.

Also, drove through three towns (Newcastle, Volksrust, Standerton) and multiple smaller villages closer to the N17. It's not like driving the N1 from Joburg to Bloem.
 
Hanno Labuschagne said:
No, we were driving the max speeds as frequently as possible. Vast majority of the route is 100km/h or 80km/h, a few spots with 120km/h zones.

Also, drove through three towns (Newcastle, Volksrust, Standerton) and multiple smaller villages closer to the N17. It's not like driving the N1 from Joburg to Bloem.
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Let us know how that one goes.
 
Hanno Labuschagne said:
Just to be clear, we paid R490,000 for the Ora used with 12,000km.

The Sonet we bought as a demo for somewhere around R350,000. Still, working off a R140,000 price difference will take many years of driving — if ever achieved.

We are currently saving about R15,000 per year compared to using fuel in the Sonet, so that's a 9-year RoI. Probably gonna have a new car by that time.

But that's not why we bought it. The Ora is just a wayyyy better drive, has a higher safety rating, and is much quicker off the line. Long-term running cost was an ancillary consideration.

The point of the article was more to illustrate typical price differences between using an EV and a petrol car in SA on a long-distance trip.

The Ora's average consumption has been roughly on par with EVDatabase's average of 19kWh/100km over the last year, while the Sonet's is actually lower than the average South African petrol car, so the actual difference might be greater.

We also wanted to highlight the benefit of overnight charging, as it can reduce long-distance trip costs substantially, something which is just not an option with a petrol or a diesel car.
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How do you know which stops have electrical outlets for charging, is their a map or something so you can preplan where to stop to recharge?
 
WollieVerstege said:
You can just go to Google Maps and type in "ev charging stations" and it brings up all yhe stations in the area you are searching.
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We are talking about stay over places that have overnight charging facilities without bringing your 100m extension cable with you.
 
Progenix Oj101 said:
But can an EV put this smile on your face?

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Yeah after you do long distance in one you smile when you realise how annoying the consistent engine hum and vibration is on a long journey from even the quietest ICE vehicles.That's usually a massive factor in long distance travelling fatigue.

EV's are also perfect for running around and traffic where the lack of any lag at all means if you see a gap it's yours.No ICE can do that.Also for daily running around they put a huge smile on your face when you realise you spent like a 3rd of what you would have for fuel and that waiting in your car doesn't have to mean leave the engine running to smell fumes while using the aircon.

But I digress,the one place I don't see myself as an EV fan is for proper sports cars for driving fun.Perhaps as a Sunday car like how some people have their bikes for sunday run or other occasional runs where you want to just drive for the thrill of it.Thats one scenario where a nice big naturally aspirated manual ICE will always be special regardless of which EV can outsprint it in a drag race.
 
falcon786 said:
Yeah after you do long distance in one you smile when you realise how annoying the consistent engine hum and vibration is on a long journey from even the quietest ICE vehicles.That's usually a massive factor in long distance travelling fatigue.

EV's are also perfect for running around and traffic where the lack of any lag at all means if you see a gap it's yours.No ICE can do that.Also for daily running around they put a huge smile on your face when you realise you spent like a 3rd of what you would have for fuel and that waiting in your car doesn't have to mean leave the engine running to smell fumes while using the aircon.

But I digress,the one place I don't see myself as an EV fan is for proper sports cars for driving fun.Perhaps as a Sunday car like how some people have their bikes for sunday run or other occasional runs where you want to just drive for the thrill of it.Thats one scenario where a nice big naturally aspirated manual ICE will always be special regardless of which EV can outsprint it in a drag race.
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I don’t hear my engine though on the freeway. I do when I put my foot down then you hear the silky smooth V6.
 
Pythonista said:
I get this - and I'm a fan of what EV's can and will do - it's just the hassle of the WORRY that gives me the heebie-jeebies. And also - the fact that you have to have a meal to "fit" in time for charging is doubly annoying. Especially at all the crappy places we have on our National Roads.
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Next headline.. "EV's promote Obesity" :ROFL:
 
wingnut771 said:
Remember this is only when going on holiday and using rapid chargers, the rest of the time you charging at home for much cheaper or even free from solar.
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That's exactly what I wrote here previously in regards to the BYD Dolphin Surf. EV's are meant for city driving and not the long haul, at least for now. I would charge an EV daily off my own solar system for free. But for the budget minded taking frequent long trips, a Renault Kwid seems like the better option.
 
w1z4rd said:
A very common car here (Vietnam) is the VinFast VF 3. They sell for about R200 000 here. Range 210km. The VinFast VF 5 is also a very common car if you like a more traditional look.

If Vietnam can produce an affordable EV.... why cant we? We have all the resources.
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Because there's more money to be made in bribes from Chinese companies being allowed to operate and build here with incentives, than for a local company to be setup and provide jobs and a south african product.
 
The Gilded said:
That's exactly what I wrote here previously in regards to the BYD Dolphin Surf. EV's are meant for city driving and not the long haul, at least for now. I would charge an EV daily off my own solar system for free. But for the budget minded taking frequent long trips, a Renault Kwid seems like the better option.
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The fact that cars will be soon coming out with 9min charge to 97% negates this view with the new gen BYD and CATL battery tech. We just need BYD to bring their megawatt chargers here backed up with their batteries so mega power grid connections aren’t needed as that is a problem world wide.
 
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