'They came with machetes' - deadline looms for migrants to leave South Africa

rietrot said:
So far it is the foreigners who are violent.
And deportation is controlled by the government.

I'm not sure you have been following.
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Have been following. People are going to people's homes with machetes. Pressuring the government with social unrest instead of just voting them out for not doing their job. That's violence. That's intimidation. It shouldn't be allowed. Mob rule is unacceptable.

Next thing they're at my door with machetes.

Government should also be doing their job and getting rid of these illegals. Should be locking up the machete-wielding maniacs too though.
 
porchrat said:
Have been following. People are going to people's homes with machetes. Pressuring the government with social unrest instead of just voting them out for not doing their job. That's violence. That's intimidation. It shouldn't be allowed. Mob rule is unacceptable.

Next thing they're at my door with machetes.

Government should also be doing their job and getting rid of these illegals. Should be locking up the machete-wielding maniacs too though.
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Well, I've had the machete visit in the middle of the night.
They affirmatively acquired my laptops, cameras, phones and wife's jewelry during the visit.
 
Authorities were monitoring a protest in Durban's Springfield Park on Monday, where hundreds have reportedly been demonstrating against the employment of undocumented migrants.

Businesses under scrutiny
A group of around 300 people has been moving through the business district on Peter Road, allegedly requesting documentation and employment records from local companies.

“This crowd is going door to door to different businesses, questioning and looking for employment details of staff who are working there,” KZN VIP security spokesperson Gareth Naidoo said.

He added that the situation remained peaceful, although the crowd was growing.
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www.ecr.co.za

Authorities monitor Springfield Park protest over employment of undocumented migrants

Authorities monitor a peaceful Springfield Park protest as demonstrators demand employment records and migrant documentation.
www.ecr.co.za www.ecr.co.za

www.citizen.co.za

Protesters gather in Springfield Park, request staff documents | Northglen News

Protesters gathered in Springfield Park, moving through the business district and requesting employee documentation from local companies.
www.citizen.co.za www.citizen.co.za
 
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Nerfherder said:
Every single item has references.
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One item remains doubtful.

How many more undocumented have been omitted, simply because they cannot be found/flying under the radar/no record of them entering the country?

Then there are also those with illegally issued passports
 
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Supervan II said:
One item remains doubtful.

How many more undocumented have been omitted, simply because they cannot be found/flying under the radar/no record of them entering the country?

Then there are also those with illegally issued passports
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The census counts everyone present on census night regardless of
legal status. Anyone missing or “hiding” is adjusted for via the Post-Enumeration
Survey (PES).
Stats SA Census 2022; UN Department of Economic and Social Affairs (UNDESA) International Migrant Stock 2024; IES 2022/23
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Nerfherder said:
fact sheet

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Census data, just like most data as far as foreigners are concerned is very inaccurate, firstly, illegal foreigners will make sure that they are not part of anything official in the country, why would you jump the border illegally, avoid being documented and then willingly provide your information in a government census?

They will duck and dive, if they are cornered, they will provide false information, census takes your word for it after all, so if a Malawian tells you they are Zulu from kwaNongoma, then you record that.

Lastly, Census 2022 was deemed very ureliable, I was never physically counted, for the first time in my life since I knew census was a thing, no one in my complex was counted, I ended up doing the voluntary self enumaration thing because I am a good South African.

Honestly people are seeing through all the BS of trying to downplay the problem of illegal immigration, it's just a waste of time, illegal immigration must be addressed, it causes a lot of problems, don't try and tell people they are imagining things, and no, no one said it will solve all our problems, whatever problems we have after that are our problems and we will deal with them without illegal immigrants.

groundup.org.za

“Implausible” 2022 census cost R4-billion

There are serious concerns about the reliability of the census data
groundup.org.za groundup.org.za
 
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Nerfherder said:
Every single item has references.
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Bro I know how a census works. Just because there is a reference doesn't mean it is accurate.

They cannot, and have not counted all the illigals.
They didn't count all those on a tourist visa. As that is outside the scope of the census.
 
TheChamp said:
Census data, just like most data as far as foreigners are concerned is very inaccurate, firstly, illegal foreigners will make sure that they are not part of anything official in the country, why would you jump the border illegally, avoid being documented and then willingly provide your information in a government census?

They will duck and dive, if they are cornered, they will provide false information, census takes your word for it after all, so if a Malawian tells you they are Zulu from kwaNongoma, then you record that.

Lastly, Census 2022 was deemed very ureliable, I was never physically counted, for the first time in my life since I knew census was a thing, no one in my complex was counted, I ended up doing the voluntary self enumaration thing because I am a good South African.

Honestly people are seeing through all the BS of trying to downplay the problem of illegal immigration, it's just a waste of time, illegal immigration must be addressed, it causes a lot of problems, don't try and tell people they are imagining things, and no, no one said it will solve all our problems, whatever problems we have after that are our problems and we will deal with them without illegal immigrants.

groundup.org.za

“Implausible” 2022 census cost R4-billion

There are serious concerns about the reliability of the census data
groundup.org.za groundup.org.za
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Yes, that is why additional surveys were used:
The census counts everyone present on census night regardless of
legal status. Anyone missing or “hiding” is adjusted for via the Post-Enumeration
Survey (PES).
Stats SA Census 2022; UN Department of Economic and Social Affairs (UNDESA) International Migrant Stock 2024; IES 2022/23
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