Vorastra
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We're not talking about the ethics of the ANC having generalised death penalty access.
We're talking about citizens actively conspiring against the country seeking to damage it greatly.
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IRAN WAR: You can't lose, if you don't have a goal
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We're talking about citizens actively conspiring against the country seeking to damage it greatly.
I assume because the biggest user, China, is getting its oil directly with Iran with its own currency without any issue so its not buying at market rates
TheChamp
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Which party would you trust with the death penalty?
So you're condoning the activities of the Apartheid government?
Vorastra
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I'm sure this works on someone. But not me.
ToxicBunny
Oi! Leave me out of this...
None... no political party should ever have access to that lever, and not even because the party itself would abuse it (though most would at some point) but because a party is not in power forever (regardless of what uBaba thinks) and you can never be sure the next grouping won't abuse it.
Mike Hoxbig
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Cyril is powerless even if he wasn't a coward. The problem is the entire criminal justice system from law enforcement to the courts. There's nothing deterring politicians and people with influence from behaving the way they do. The new "Scorpions" was meant to have been that but they're pansies too...
Vorastra
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Chinese oil reserves were completely stable during the entire war, while everyone else's crashed. They never needed Iran.
Huh? It's a reasonable question. But I understand if you don't have the courage to answer it. Let me then ask you whether you see any differences between Apartheid South Africa and current day Iran? On a governmental level.
Craig_
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Regardless of what, we can never have the death penalty in this country again, especially not for political crimes like treason. It is bound to be abused to settle scores.
Not a single one of them.
Vorastra
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You never have to worry about the death penalty, because no one would ever get there.
I doubt China makes pubic its oil reserves. I know they have been using some up since their imports were cut by a third.
New data shows China came into the Iran war with over 3x the strategic oil reserves of the US
New data from the US government released this week shows just how aggressively China added to its oil reserves ahead of the war in Iran.
finance.yahoo.com
"The analysis estimated that China, which doesn't publicly disclose its reserve levels, added an average of 1.1 million barrels per day to its strategic inventories in 2025."
Craig_
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And the majority of us voted for that. So we have to live with it.
Vorastra
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No it's not reasonable lmao and you know it. That's why you had to sit there, dribbling, going "BUT WHAT ABOUT MUH APARTHEID".
We must bomb them because they were meanie to a few people you like.
Coming down on the side of a despotic regime that terrorises and murders it's citizens is a wild take.
Fighting to remove the current govenment of Iran is not the same as trying to damage the country itself.
Vorastra
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For fŭck sake.I doubt China makes pubic its oil reserves. I know they have been using some up since their imports were cut by a third.
New data shows China came into the Iran war with over 3x the strategic oil reserves of the US
New data from the US government released this week shows just how aggressively China added to its oil reserves ahead of the war in Iran.
"The analysis estimated that China, which doesn't publicly disclose its reserve levels, added an average of 1.1 million barrels per day to its strategic inventories in 2025."
Vorastra
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The majority of the people over there seem to be fine with it, why should I want to change it.
Notice that you are the wanks here, not me. You don't have some special moral obligation to go and bomb and kill the people you think you are saving.
By this logic, you liberated those ~150 Iranian school children that were 'missiled' into dust.
And you know this from all the elections that the Iranian people have had to confirm their choice of goverment?
Totally agree, but celebrating the incarcaration of 3000 people who are trying to depose a tyrannical regime is pretty "****" too