Concerns about R2,400 registration fee for Emfuleni residents with solar power

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R2,400 fee for people with solar panels on their roofs in a Gauteng municipality

Civil rights group AfriForum has raised concerns about the Municipality of Emfuleni's proposed plan to introduce a R2,400 once-off fee and R463 monthly charges for residents with solar power.

Emfuleni is a municipality located in the former industrial heartland of Gauteng, which includes Sebokeng, Vanderbijlpark, Vereeniging, Three Rivers, and Sharpeville.
 
Imagine if every household and business that installed solar switched it off for one month.

A civil society group should organise this as a form of protest. South Africans used their own money to reduce pressure on Eskom and effectively bought the utility the breathing room it needed.

That contribution needs to be recognised, not taken for granted.
 
kolakidd said:
Imagine if every household and business that installed solar switched it off for one month.

A civil society group should organise this as a form of protest. South Africans used their own money to reduce pressure on Eskom and effectively bought the utility the breathing room it needed.

That contribution needs to be recognised, not taken for granted.
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kolakidd said:
Imagine if every household and business that installed solar switched it off for one month.

A civil society group should organise this as a form of protest. South Africans used their own money to reduce pressure on Eskom and effectively bought the utility the breathing room it needed.

That contribution needs to be recognised, not taken for granted.
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I agree but I think enough industry has imploded in recent years that eskom would probably still have the wiggle room to want to pat themselves on the back. Though I could be wrong.
 
wingnut771 said:
I'll take it a step further and just say rate payers associations take over the administration on municipalities. This is not politics, its economics. We dont need to vote for someone to do their job.
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Surely ratepayer's association just ends up serving the same role as the municipality then, no real difference?

Not even elected. Potentially very dangerous.
 
porchrat said:
Surely ratepayer's association just ends up serving the same role as the municipality then, no real difference?

Not even elected. Potentially very dangerous.
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The rate payers elect volunteers at the community hall meeting. The people who work for the rate payers are career municipality non-partisan workers.
 
wingnut771 said:
The rate payers elect volunteers at the community hall meeting. The people who work for the rate payers are career municipality non-partisan workers.
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You want volunteers to take on something as time-consuming and all-encompassing as effectively managing the services of an entire city for mahala?

Good luck mate.
 
porchrat said:
You want volunteers to take on something as time-consuming and all-encompassing as effectively managing the services of an entire city for mahala?

Good luck mate.
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No, the volunteers are the "councillors", the liaisons to the city, the managing services are hired and fired by the rate paying association at the monthly council hall meeting.
 
wingnut771 said:
No, the volunteers are the "councillors", the liaisons to the city, the managing services are hired and fired by the rate paying association at the monthly council hall meeting.
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Who decides who the candidates for the services are? The volunteers?

Who manages the people providing the services? Who performs the oversight on the people providing the various services to the city. These are full-time jobs man.

All I'm hearing is "I want volunteers to run a city for free with extra steps"
 
porchrat said:
Who decides who the candidates for the services are? The volunteers?

Who manages the people providing the services? Who performs the oversight on the people providing the various services to the city. These are full-time jobs man.

All I'm hearing is "I want volunteers to run a city for free with extra steps"
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You and me (the rate payers) at the community hall meeting. Community hall advertise for the job and community hall interview the candidates, then community hall hire the best one. Then a month later community hall find out from the community that that person is not doing a good job, then community hall fires them.

Look, I don't have all the answers okay, all I know is that I want a bottom up structure like Swiss Canton System. You think this **** happens in Switzerland? They don't even have a Parliament really where the pigs get together to make laws to suppress us commoners.
 
wingnut771 said:
You and me (the rate payers) at the community hall meeting. Community hall advertise for the job and community hall interview the candidates, then community hall hire the best one. Then a month later community hall find out from the community that that person is not doing a good job, then community hall fires them.

Look, I don't have all the answers okay, all I know is that I want a bottom up structure like Swiss Canton System. You think this **** happens in Switzerland? They don't even have a Parliament really where the pigs get together to make laws to suppress us commoners.
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This stuff doesn't happen in Switzerland because the average person is decently educated and contributes to their society so they've got skin in the game. Even where they do elect officials, which they still do mind you, they don't elect morons. So jobs still get done.

There are a significant number of people in SA that still believe in witchcraft. Many want your land expropriated and any number of other idiotic things. You want these people to have MORE direct control?

When you come up with ideas like this you've got yourself in mind. This sort of thing works for a person like you. You're disciplined and educated. You're not the problem. You're not the one making the bad decisions electing the morons. You need to think about the lowest common denominator though. Those same people that overwhelmingly vote in the morons will just directly vote for even dumber ideas once they have direct control.
 
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