konfab
Honorary Master
Oh no, it will be marketed and advertised as Cape Towns first inclusive property development.
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Five key findings from the Constitutional Court's Tafelberg judgment
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No, sport is still quite a big thing.
ToxicBunny
Oi! Leave me out of this...
Few basic facts.
Department of Education targets a class size of around 40, so will only allocate teachers to get to that class size.
For a Quintile 5 school (basically Model C), they get a government grant of around R300 per student for actually running the school itself.
Do you start to see where your idea begins to fall apart?
wingnut771
Honorary Master
Thank you. Why was there 30 in a class when I went to DHS? Is it true that majority of the previously disadvantaged don't pay their model c school fees?
There is also the issue of departmental teachers and school governing body teachers. Not too sure about the details, but it sounds like it relates to your post.
konfab
Honorary Master
The fun part is that deliberately embedding low cost housing in a larney area cannot solve the problem.
1) All social housing will be subject to the PIE act, so once you get your social rental unit, you just don't pay the rent. And since it is a government run housing development, no court will ever grant an eviction order unless alternative accommodation is found by the government.
2) If a private developer manages those unit, they will simply keep the social housing units empty as that would literally be cheaper and less effort than to try and collect rent from people in the income bracket they are allowed to rent to. They can use credit checks, employer verification to basically block all of it.
3) You could sell them to the social housing recipients for a low value, but then they would sit in an area surrounded by multimillion rand apartments, which means that COCT would be obliged to value those properties based on their square meterage and neighbouring values. So rates would be unaffordable and they would have to sell. And they likely would sell because getting R10m for your flat that you paid R250k for is worth it for anyone.
4) If you change the deed conditions to prevent the sale, or limit the selling price, you lock the recipients into permanent poverty by not allowing them to take advantage of the property value.
This is just basic economics. It has nothing to do with apartheid.
In video below: what centrally planned social housing looks like in reality
en.wikipedia.org
1) All social housing will be subject to the PIE act, so once you get your social rental unit, you just don't pay the rent. And since it is a government run housing development, no court will ever grant an eviction order unless alternative accommodation is found by the government.
2) If a private developer manages those unit, they will simply keep the social housing units empty as that would literally be cheaper and less effort than to try and collect rent from people in the income bracket they are allowed to rent to. They can use credit checks, employer verification to basically block all of it.
3) You could sell them to the social housing recipients for a low value, but then they would sit in an area surrounded by multimillion rand apartments, which means that COCT would be obliged to value those properties based on their square meterage and neighbouring values. So rates would be unaffordable and they would have to sell. And they likely would sell because getting R10m for your flat that you paid R250k for is worth it for anyone.
4) If you change the deed conditions to prevent the sale, or limit the selling price, you lock the recipients into permanent poverty by not allowing them to take advantage of the property value.
This is just basic economics. It has nothing to do with apartheid.
In video below: what centrally planned social housing looks like in reality
Pruitt–Igoe - Wikipedia
wingnut771
Honorary Master
This 40 to a class requirement, is that like government putting up these signs?
ToxicBunny
Oi! Leave me out of this...
Because your parents funded governing body teaching posts.
wingnut771
Honorary Master
Are you saying DHS doesn't have 40 kids in a class today?
Nerfherder
Honorary Master
Interesting... so there has already been a compromise. When first I heard of this they were going to use the entire site as one big private school.More background in this report:
Tafelberg sale ruled unlawful in major victory for affordable housing in Cape Town
ConCourt rules that Western Cape government and City of Cape Town are constitutionally obliged to provide affordable housing in the inner-city.www.moneyweb.co.za
"The province proposes an eight-storey development with 440 open-market housing units and 200 social housing units. Heritage Western Cape rejects the first Heritage Impact Assessment, but approves a second version in June. The old school building has to be preserved because of its heritage value, but social housing can be built on another part of the site. A land use application has been submitted to the City and public participation processes will follow."
440:220 Normal market to Social housing ratio.
I wonder what ratio the commie court has in mind....
And yeah, they clearly need some normal market units as the developers wont build social housing for free....
Nerfherder
Honorary Master
Even if they get it right... the people who get thost houses will always be the "new elite".The fun part is that deliberately embedding low cost housing in a larney area cannot solve the problem.
1) All social housing will be subject to the PIE act, so once you get your social rental unit, you just don't pay the rent. And since it is a government run housing development, no court will ever grant an eviction order unless alternative accommodation is found by the government.
2) If a private developer manages those unit, they will simply keep the social housing units empty as that would literally be cheaper and less effort than to try and collect rent from people in the income bracket they are allowed to rent to. They can use credit checks, employer verification to basically block all of it.
3) You could sell them to the social housing recipients for a low value, but then they would sit in an area surrounded by multimillion rand apartments, which means that COCT would be obliged to value those properties based on their square meterage and neighbouring values. So rates would be unaffordable and they would have to sell. And they likely would sell because getting R10m for your flat that you paid R250k for is worth it for anyone.
4) If you change the deed conditions to prevent the sale, or limit the selling price, you lock the recipients into permanent poverty by not allowing them to take advantage of the property value.
This is just basic economics. It has nothing to do with apartheid.
In video below: what centrally planned social housing looks like in reality
Pruitt–Igoe - Wikipedia
We won't be able to make a house for everyone in Seapoint, so its always going to be a select group of people that get access to those houses.
This whole thing is tit for tat.
No one can explain why district 6 hasn't been developed yet. Its a far better location for social housing...
wingnut771
Honorary Master
Turn it into an old age home.
ToxicBunny
Oi! Leave me out of this...
I have no idea what their class sizes currently are but given the higher school fees it will be lower than whatever the norms and standards define.
OK.