Only 17% of hopeful learner drivers passed the new test in the Western Cape

[Zellephant]

17% indicates a serious problem with the testing and training, NOT the students doing the test, that much is obvious.

Would love to know what bellends are running or setting the exam questions <-- they're the problem.

Absolute nonsense. Like I said, I did my license back in 2004, the old school written k53 test.

I redid it in stellenbosch a couple of weeks back, on the new computer based test. I passed first time, with no preparation - and you do also get 3 practice questions to familiarise yourself with the system.

If that test overwhelms a candidate, then they have no business operating a motor vehicle.

The problem lies squarely in the ability of the people takin the test, and is proof of how many were obviously bribing thier way through previously when it was manually marked

 

[bwana]

I redid it in stellenbosch a couple of weeks back,

Why would you need to do that?

 

[Zellephant]

Why would you need to do that?

Explained it a few posts back already. In order to upgrade my license to an EC so I am allowed to tow my trailers legally

 

[Lupus]

The old Code 8 was converted to EB as far as I remember.

Ah so if you already had one.

 

[Lupus]

17% indicates a serious problem with the testing and training, NOT the students doing the test, that much is obvious.

Would love to know what bellends are running or setting the exam questions QUOTE]Have you seen how they drive???

 

[Tongs of Destiny]

Absolute nonsense. Like I said, I did my license back in 2004, the old school written k53 test.

I redid it in stellenbosch a couple of weeks back, on the new computer based test. I passed first time, with no preparation - and you do also get 3 practice questions to familiarise yourself with the system.

If that test overwhelms a candidate, then they have no business operating a motor vehicle.

The problem lies squarely in the ability of the people takin the test, and is proof of how many were obviously bribing thier way through previously when it was manually marked

kak man, if 1,000,000 studied what they were told from the books they were given, then wrote the test and 99% failed would you say it's the students fault or maybe something is amiss in the exam. I also did my K53 back in the day, and you went to CNA bought a K53 book and studied every road sign etc, then went and wrote your test.
Nowadays you buy a book and sit down and they are asking questions / road signs that aren't in the book, hence why the majority of people are failing.

Just stick to the curriculum, it's a small book with a few hundred road signs, and stop trying to be the examiner who is out there to fail people by asking impossible questions that aren't in the book.

 

[Snyks]

If this is a 'computerised' test, they should be able to generate a random paper (say 30 questions out of a pool of 300) and make a practice test available online. The point should be to educate prospective drivers, not to fail them.

I think you are wrong....the point is to see how "educated" you are on the topic, not to educate you, unless, by failing it, you realize you were not educated enough.

 

[Snyks]

kak man, if 1,000,000 studied what they were told from the books they were given, then wrote the test and 99% failed would you say it's the students fault or maybe something is amiss in the exam. I also did my K53 back in the day, and you went to CNA bought a K53 book and studied every road sign etc, then went and wrote your test.
Nowadays you buy a book and sit down and they are asking questions / road signs that aren't in the book, hence why the majority of people are failing.

Just stick to the curriculum, it's a small book with a few hundred road signs, and stop trying to be the examiner who is out there to fail people by asking impossible questions that aren't in the book.

You should find the answers in the book, not the questions. Please tell me what road signs you are questioned on in the test, that is not in the book.

 

[Tongs of Destiny]

You should find the answers in the book, not the questions. Please tell me what road signs you are questioned on in the test, that is not in the book.

Well this is EXACTLY what I am saying. There is clearly a serious disconnect from the K53 book to the actual test questions. Now either the K53 book does not have the road signs that are in the test, or the test questions are all ambiguous and idiotic. But for almost 90% of people failing, to me that is not the K53 book, it's the questions being asked.

 

[Zellephant]

kak man, if 1,000,000 studied what they were told from the books they were given, then wrote the test and 99% failed would you say it's the students fault or maybe something is amiss in the exam. I also did my K53 back in the day, and you went to CNA bought a K53 book and studied every road sign etc, then went and wrote your test.
Nowadays you buy a book and sit down and they are asking questions / road signs that aren't in the book, hence why the majority of people are failing.

Just stick to the curriculum, it's a small book with a few hundred road signs, and stop trying to be the examiner who is out there to fail people by asking impossible questions that aren't in the book.

Well this is EXACTLY what I am saying. There is clearly a serious disconnect from the K53 book to the actual test questions. Now either the K53 book does not have the road signs that are in the test, or the test questions are all ambiguous and idiotic. But for almost 90% of people failing, to me that is not the K53 book, it's the questions being asked.

Dude, did you miss the part where I said that I actually wrote this new test, a couple of weeks ago. I’m talking from first hand experience. The test asks exactly the same kind of questions we were asked in 2004 on the paper exam. Only the method of writing the test has changed to a digital format - and the ability to pay a bribe so you can pass has been taken away.

All the road signs in the test were normal, everyday signs. All the questions I am sure you would find the answer to in the K53 book (I admit I didn’t open a K53 book before taking the test this time around, so I can’t be 100% sure). The majority of people are failing now, because they don’t know the answers to the very simple questions, and don’t know the rules of the road. It’s that simple.

Previously, you could bribe the examiner to pass you, then about 60% passed. Now the examiner is a computer and doesn’t take brides, and 11% pass. The problem is not the test

 

[The_MAC]

Dude, did you miss the part where I said that I actually wrote this new test, a couple of weeks ago. I’m talking from first hand experience. The test asks exactly the same kind of questions we were asked in 2004 on the paper exam. Only the method of writing the test has changed to a digital format - and the ability to pay a bribe so you can pass has been taken away.

All the road signs in the test were normal, everyday signs. All the questions I am sure you would find the answer to in the K53 book (I admit I didn’t open a K53 book before taking the test this time around, so I can’t be 100% sure). The majority of people are failing now, because they don’t know the answers to the very simple questions, and don’t know the rules of the road. It’s that simple.

Previously, you could bribe the examiner to pass you, then about 60% passed. Now the examiner is a computer and doesn’t take brides, and 11% pass. The problem is not the test

Also had to redo in March this year, for an EB licence.

The questions are straight forward and similar to many online practice tests, there were a handful of tricky ones, but not enough to fail you.

Most of the people I was with passed the test as well, although this was in Gauteng, so don't think the 17% is applicable.

 

[PowerFactor]

They should also do the driving probation thing for new drivers.

 

[Zellephant]

kak man, if 1,000,000 studied what they were told from the books they were given, then wrote the test and 99% failed would you say it's the students fault or maybe something is amiss in the exam. I also did my K53 back in the day, and you went to CNA bought a K53 book and studied every road sign etc, then went and wrote your test.
Nowadays you buy a book and sit down and they are asking questions / road signs that aren't in the book, hence why the majority of people are failing.

Just stick to the curriculum, it's a small book with a few hundred road signs, and stop trying to be the examiner who is out there to fail people by asking impossible questions that aren't in the book.

Out of interest, how do you know this? Can you provide an example of one of these super-secret road signs they are asking about?

I must have been very lucky that in my test last month and in my motorbike test back in January, I only got asked to identify perfectly normal road signs.

 

[Zellephant]

They should also do the driving probation thing for new drivers.

This I agree with 100%, have been saying it for years. They could even implement that along with dropping the driving age to 16. Learner's license at 15, "level 1" driver's license at 16, but then you need to drive on restricted roads, no highways, no 120kp/h zones, etc (basically only urban/suburban areas) until you have 2 years of practical driving experience with no major incidents, etc. During this time, you can only drive on highways and open roads under the supervision of a fully licensed driver.

In a perfect world, I think we should implement the Scandinavian model - but I don't think we will ever have the administrative capability or cultural acceptance of something like this.