99% of murders in South Africa are committed with illegal firearms

99% of murders in South Africa are committed with illegal firearms

New data from the acting Minister of Police, Firoz Cachalia, showed that 99% of murders in South Africa were committed with illegal firearms.

 

[Sargeant]

Stolen from police and army mostly, sleep on that!

State guns, criminal hands: The real source of SA’s firearms crisis | The Citizen

Police and army stockpiles, not private gun owners, are feeding South Africa’s illegal firearms market, experts warn after Boksburg killings.

www.citizen.co.za

 

[Mista_Mobsta]

Stolen from police mostly, sleep on that!

State guns, criminal hands: The real source of SA’s firearms crisis | The Citizen

Police and army stockpiles, not private gun owners, are feeding South Africa’s illegal firearms market, experts warn after Boksburg killings.

www.citizen.co.za

Government again trying to punish the citizens for their utter incompetence and failures - color me surprised!

Government: we are seeing a large increase in illegal foreigners and identity theft therefore we will make it almost impossible for South Africans to apply for a drivers license or ID - can't be illegal on stolen land or commit identity theft if you can't prove your identity right?

Citizens: why not secure the borders and improve policing instead...

 

[Bad Ballie]

I wonder how many were "stolen" cop firearms

Up to 1994 when the statistics were still being released 70% of all firearms were stolen from the police and military. Today that percentage would be a lot higher.

 

[SykomantiS]

So less than 1% of all murders were committed using objects other than firearms? Stabbings? Bludgeoning? Strangulations?

Getting back to this, the question was asked specifically around murders with firearms, not all murders.

Here is a document Natshoot shared with its members

https://natshoot.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/RNW2492-2026-07-21.pdf

 

[TheChamp]

So less than 1% of all murders were committed using objects other than firearms? Stabbings? Bludgeoning? Strangulations?

It sounds very odd.

 

[TheChamp]

Getting back to this, the question was asked specifically around murders with firearms, not all murders.

Here is a document Natshoot shared with its members

https://natshoot.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/RNW2492-2026-07-21.pdf

So Newsday reporting rubbish as usual?

 

[Flanders]

Seems like the title should be "99% of firearm-related murders in South Africa are committed with illegal firearms"?

 

[SykomantiS]

So Newsday reporting rubbish as usual?

The article is definitely lacking detail and explanation, but I don't think it's completely innacurate.

Seems like the title should be "99% of firearm-related murders in South Africa are committed with illegal firearms"?

More accurately, yes.

 

[TheChamp]

The article is definitely lacking detail and explanation, but I don't think it's completely innacurate.



More accurately, yes.

If the article only refers to gun related murders then it is completely inaccurate and should have long been pulled down if Newsday took it's journalism integrity seriously.

 

[Azbubu]

If the article only refers to gun related murders then it is completely inaccurate and should have long been pulled down if Newsday took it's journalism integrity seriously.

Why? Newsday aren’t in the business of factual and accurate journalism and reporting.

 

[SykomantiS]

If the article only refers to gun related murders then it is completely inaccurate and should have long been pulled down if Newsday took it's journalism integrity seriously.

It's not completely inaccurate. The first paragraph is inaccurate. The rest seems to align with the question posed to the minister.

But sure, it's inaccurate.

 

[ForceFate]

So less than 1% of all murders were committed using objects other than firearms? Stabbings? Bludgeoning? Strangulations?

All of that plus legally sourced firearms.

 

[A3@MBB]

So all murders in SA gets solved?
Or are bullet striations from all illegal firearms on record? This assuming that the murders are not committed with a shotgun or something like a .22Lr.

 

[Mike Angelo]

If you plan to murder someone I don't think you would normally use your own legal firearm...

 

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

If the article only refers to gun related murders then it is completely inaccurate and should have long been pulled down if Newsday took it's journalism integrity seriously.

Sorry to break it to you but Newsday is nothing more than a LLM based news bot

 

[Jan van Riebeeckstad]

Got that freedom fighter kit under my bed