Electric bakkie R50,000 cheaper than a new Hilux double-cab launched in South Africa

Many reports from Oz about serious rust damage on Chinese vehicles.

Seems that they do not treat the metal appropriately during manufacture.

And parts shortages.
 
I always find it amusing when they quote towing capacity in these reports. I am sure the vehicle will be able to tow between 2.5 and 3 tonnes. The question is how far? You probably won't go further than 60 to a 100 km on a charge while towing that kind of weight behind.

Also, one can hardly call it a bakkie. It will be useless as a working vehicle and fairly inadequate as a leisure vehicle.
 
Stonemason said:
I always find it amusing when they quote towing capacity in these reports. I am sure the vehicle will be able to tow between 2.5 and 3 tonnes. The question is how far? You probably won't go further than 60 to a 100 km on a charge while towing that kind of weight behind.

Also, one can hardly call it a bakkie. It will be useless as a working vehicle and fairly inadequate as a leisure vehicle.
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Maybe someone can school me, but from what I know, you cannot tow more than the vehicles TARE, so how can you tow these weights? This "Bakkie" is roughly 2000kg TARE from what I Googled

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No ways this thing sees a construction site or does any serious heavy lifting.

Luxury double cab bakkies are the new German luxury sedan anyway. More about status than practicality.
 
The_MAC said:
Maybe someone can school me, but from what I know, you cannot tow more than the vehicles TARE, so how can you tow these weights? This "Bakkie" is roughly 2000kg TARE from what I Googled

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The vehicle can tow it, but you'd need the relevant license to do so, which wouldn't be a B or EB license.
 
The_MAC said:
Ya, the licence as well, but that's a seperate thing, I am talking about the law wrt towing
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The law wrt to towing is purely a license issue really.

With a B or EB license you can tow up to a maximum of 3500kgs all in as I understand it. If you want to tow more you need a higher license. Though I think there are nuances with braked/unbraked and GCM vs GVM
 
ToxicBunny said:
The law wrt to towing is purely a license issue really.

With a B or EB license you can tow up to a maximum of 3500kgs all in as I understand it. If you want to tow more you need a higher license. Though I think there are nuances with braked/unbraked and GCM vs GVM
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Not at all, the licence is a legal requirement from the drivers "competence" perspective I am talking about safety and the law that enforces it, for example, you cannot tow a 2-ton trailer with a Yaris
 
The_MAC said:
Not at all, the licence is a legal requirement from the drivers "competence" perspective I am talking about safety and the law that enforces it, for example, you cannot tow a 2-ton trailer with a Yaris
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One would have to assume that they've done their due diligence with the legal bodies to certify the vehicle can safely tow that weight...

Can't see a manufacturer claiming something like that when they haven't ticked the legal boxes.
 
The_MAC said:
Not at all, the licence is a legal requirement from the drivers "competence" perspective I am talking about safety and the law that enforces it, for example, you cannot tow a 2-ton trailer with a Yaris
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Yip, if that goes badly on a downhill the trailer will end up pushing the Yaris off the road.
 
ToxicBunny said:
One would have to assume that they've done their due diligence with the legal bodies to certify the vehicle can safely tow that weight...

Can't see a manufacturer claiming something like that when they haven't ticked the legal boxes.
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Ok, so I think I've answered my own question (you are not right about the licence though ;))

The towing capacity is what the vehicle is rated for, but legally, you are still restricted to the vehicles TARE
 
The_MAC said:
Maybe someone can school me, but from what I know, you cannot tow more than the vehicles TARE, so how can you tow these weights? This "Bakkie" is roughly 2000kg TARE from what I Googled

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Well they just say what its capable off as law are different in different contries.
In SA the GVM(gross vehicle mass) of the trailer cannot exceed 50% of the vehicle TARE if the trailer is unbraked. If braked trailer it may be 100% of towing vehicle's TARE.
 
Stonemason said:
I always find it amusing when they quote towing capacity in these reports. I am sure the vehicle will be able to tow between 2.5 and 3 tonnes. The question is how far? You probably won't go further than 60 to a 100 km on a charge while towing that kind of weight behind.

Also, one can hardly call it a bakkie. It will be useless as a working vehicle and fairly inadequate as a leisure vehicle.
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This seems to become a problem. Nobody will buy an electric car to tow a caravan, you don't want to stop every hour to charge.
And even many SUV's you don't get in a diesel anymore, just 1.5T or something that I am sure will not be very good for towing.
Everyone does not want to buy a bakkie just to be able to tow sometimes.
 
Jean Claude Vaaldamme said:
This seems to become a problem. Nobody will buy an electric car to tow a caravan, you don't want to stop every hour to charge.
And even many SUV's you don't get in a diesel anymore, just 1.5T or something that I am sure will not be very good for towing.
Everyone does not want to buy a bakkie just to be able to tow sometimes.
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Hybrids should offer the benefit of both worlds? For light to medium duty towing anyway... People that tow large loads would most likely opt for a proper bakkie.

Regardless, these electric bakkies are definitely going to be popular. Take a look at how many hiluxes are used in cities. Also a lot of farms have rather large solar systems already.
 
Sopbeen said:
Hybrids should offer the benefit of both worlds? For light to medium duty towing anyway... People that tow large loads would most likely opt for a proper bakkie.

Regardless, these electric bakkies are definitely going to be popular. Take a look at how many hiluxes are used in cities. Also a lot of farms have rather large solar systems already.
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Not really. The BYD shark is a hybrid and they did a road test with it towing a caravan in Australia. After 50 km the battery was flat and the little 1.5 l petrol engine used more than 30 l/100 km to continue the tow. That meant the petrol tank also ran out of fuel within 200 km.
To tow you either need a twin turbo 2 l diesel and up or a 3 liter petrol engine.
 
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