Afrikaner refugees who go to the United States get a $2,450 grant, cash assistance, housing, medical aid, and job assistance

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All the things mentioned. They only give you that for 3 months and only if you are actively looking for work while there. After that, you are on your own.
4 months for people with no kids, 60 months for people with kids, and Medicaid until they get a job.
 
Odd. People I know going through it, nearly done with the process, they have kids and were told they are only gonna get supported for 3 months.
I don’t have first hand accounts - just going by what the article says is provided and online documentation on the programs (you can look the programs up online). Kids would have to be minors.
 
Yes, but they are not citizens. You said that “the US Government removes medical aid from it's own citizens” this has never been true.
I think you are confusing me with someone else, I never said that.
 
Medicaid isn’t for general citizens, it’s only for the extreme minority that are poor enough, or for other circumstances (like refugees).
It is still free and it's for American citizens. And NOT just for the extreme minority that are poor enough.

It is also for:

  • ALL children under the age of 18
  • Pregnant women (incl. up to 12 months postpartum)
  • Individuals in hospice care or living in medical institutions.
  • SSI(Supplemental Security Income) recipients.
So your statement:

The US has never had free healthcare for citizens.
is completely and utterly wrong.
 
So the US Government removes medical aid from it's own citizens, under the guise that foreigners are illegally using it, yet gives it the foreign "refugees". No wonder Saffas are starting to be hated in the US.
As of 31 August 2026, Wollie has finally learned the difference between legal and illegal immigration.

This is a day to be remembered and noted for the history books.
 
It is still free and it's for American citizens. And NOT just for the extreme minority that are poor enough.

It is also for:

  • ALL children under the age of 18
  • Pregnant women (incl. up to 12 months postpartum)
  • Individuals in hospice care or living in medical institutions.
  • SSI(Supplemental Security Income) recipients.
So your statement:


is completely and utterly wrong.
The above is all incorrect. It’s only available to the above people subject to income requirements.
 
I think you are confusing me with someone else, I never said that.
You are correct, I did. I don’t then understand what issue you had with my comment - someone else claimed that medical coverage was taken away from citizens, and I said that they never had it (in general, just the poor).
 
The US has a completely different medical system to SA and doesn't have medical aid (at least to the extent that it is used in the SA context). I believe US employees have private medical insurance, but the one thing is the US is it's usually tied to being employed. You can't access it why being unemployed.
It's not tied to being employed but medical insurance is often part of the remuneration package provided by employees or heavily subsidised by them, it's very expensive when it's all out of pocket so unemployed people typically can't afford it. Especially if they have pre-existing conditions because insurers are allowed to load premiums unlike in South Africa.

And the income limits to qualify for Medicaid are soo low that in many parts of the USA where living expenses are extremely high people that earn a decent income but are essentially broke won't qualify for Medicaid, so if they can't get Health Insurance from their employee they are basically screwed. Also in some places you have to essentially be poverty stricken to qualify so even if you are essentially broke each month but not below 50% of the poverty line you still won't qualify. As with many things in the US some states are more reasonable than others, so your outcome will depend on where you are living.
 
The US has a completely different medical system to SA and doesn't have medical aid (at least to the extent that it is used in the SA context). I believe US employees have private medical insurance, but the one thing is the US is it's usually tied to being employed. You can't access it why being unemployed.

 
SA has a sh-t system where if you had a gap of no medical aid - because maybe you were abroad and had coverage THERE and local SA coverage wouldn't cover you anyway, or you are an immigrant, you are fscked and have to pay additional fees in perpetuity. But anyway.
 
Please remember where this discussion started:
That wasn’t where the discussion started. It started with someone saying that the USA removed free healthcare from its citizens. Given that poor people still have Medicaid, one would assume they were referring to social healthcare like the NHS or such available to all citizens. Citizens were never entitled to this in the USA.

Between 45 and 50 MILLION people in the US receive Medicaid. For free...
Yes, the poorest 20%. I live in the USA. I know what Medicaid is - I’ve been funding it for over 25 years.
 
SA has a sh-t system where if you had a gap of no medical aid - because maybe you were abroad and had coverage THERE and local SA coverage wouldn't cover you anyway, or you are an immigrant, you are fscked and have to pay additional fees in perpetuity. But anyway.
A family member got hit by this. Going on 20+ years of paying a 75% higher monthly premium.
 
A family member got hit by this. Going on 20+ years of paying a 75% higher monthly premium.

Absolutely - and then you need your Gap cover and on top of it a lot of specialists want most of their payment up front too.

Hideous.
 
That wasn’t where the discussion started. It started with someone saying that the USA removed free healthcare from its citizens. Given that poor people still have Medicaid, one would assume they were referring to social healthcare like the NHS or such available to all citizens. Citizens were never entitled to this in the USA.

Assumption is the mother of all ****ups. Someone DID say free healthcare was removed and YOU did say there was NEVER free healthcare. And you were wrong. Is that SO hard to admit? Now you keep doubling down and moving goalposts.


Yes, the poorest 20%. I live in the USA. I know what Medicaid is - I’ve been funding it for over 25 years.

So...again...there IS free healtcare. That is the bottom line.
 
I have quite a few friends and family members who went through the refugee program. Here is a reply to some of the posts from one of them who has been in America for a few months.

That’s just the one time stipend. As per the article, they continue to receive assistance via various refugee aid programs. Also, the unemployment rate is 4.1%, so the idea is that they should be able to find themselves in a reasonable amount of time.
$2000 per person, regardless of age, $450 per person is held by the agency.
The US has never had free healthcare for citizens.
Nonsense.

Go read up on Medicaid and how it works.
Everyone gets Medicaid, Medicaid pays for a Medical aid which includes Dental in your state, we have 3 options to choose from with regards to the Medical Aid and 2 options for the Dental, but Medicaid pays for it. Children get more benefits than adults regarding dental but on the Medical side, it's a pretty standard medical aid, no payments for doctors or medicine. Better than the network plans in South Africa, especially since all specialists are included.
All the things mentioned. They only give you that for 3 months and only if you are actively looking for work while there. After that, you are on your own.
All of this is income based on the number of people in your family, the more people, the higher the threshold. After the initial cash assistance runs out (you are not handed the amount in cash, the agency buys you things you need and will use it to pay for rent/utilities, buy food etc.) they offer you options on other programs to further assist you.
One is a program that will cover your rent and utilities as well as give you some cash every month and assist you in finding work.

You also can get food from the pantries for free each month, you can register at multiple pantries as long as they are not on the same program, this is encouraged and some you can visit twice a month. You can easily get enough food to feed a family of 4 for more than a month from just visiting pantries, anything from meat, vegetables, fruit, bread, milk, canned food and more is available there. Different pantries provide different quantities of what you can have.

From the 3 pantries we visit we get 64 pounds of food a month; chicken, beef, pork, steaks, patties, pizzas, turkey etc. you decide what you want from what they have available, you walk in with a trolley and get your allowed quantities and then go, easy, and this is available for all people with low or no income.
Odd. People I know going through it, nearly done with the process, they have kids and were told they are only gonna get supported for 3 months.
4 months for people with no kids, 60 months for people with kids, and Medicaid until they get a job.
This program runs for 180 days and can be extended to 240 if still unsuccessful in finding jobs with high enough salaries.

If after this you are still unable to sustain yourself you will be given another program to assist.

Once you earn above a certain amount, your benefits expire. which is not a bad thing, that just means that you are self sufficient and don't need the US government to subsidise you anymore

We live in a red state where everything is cheaper, housing especially. Average wages are lower as well but not nearly at the same rate that the cost of living is lowered.

A family of 4, 2 adults and 2 kids can live without any assistance with a combined income of $50 000 a year, not lavishly but comfortably. This works out to each earning a pitiful $12 an hour and working 40 hours a week.

Unskilled jobs here that even include training pays anything from $15 to $20 an hour so the required income can easily be achieved if you are not lazy.


If you have any questions I can ask him to clarify
 
You are correct, I did. I don’t then understand what issue you had with my comment - someone else claimed that medical coverage was taken away from citizens, and I said that they never had it (in general, just the poor).
My only issue was that the article itself and then your comments felt one sided, in that Afrikaners were being given special treatment which isn't the case, they were definitely being priority, but they haven't been given anything every other refugee arriving in the US doesn't get. I am happy to accept that I overreacted to your comment and apologise for that. To be honest I am just tired of the media trying to create an issue by misstating or otherwise misrepresenting the truth to create an issue that shouldn't exist.
 
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