What is your stance on AI?

[NarrowBandFtw]

The bubble will pop in the near future.

indeed it will

To a lesser extent that the dot-com crash

actually I expect it will be far bigger than the dot-com crash, the dot-com crash never ran its course entirely, bailouts kicked in, easy money went in search of the next bubble, which was much bigger as a result: the sub-prime 07/08 crash

that one fully bailed out, the easy money (i.e. insane levels of debt on nations' balance sheets) went searching for the next bubble
along came an even bigger event: the covid hoax, again, more debt to bailout and stop the correction from running its course

and here we are, the current, biggest ever, bubble is AI

the correction by default will be the biggest we've ever seen, unless it too gets bailed out ... except governments are so indebted at some point they won't be able to turn on the money printer again, at that point all the accumulated crashes from 2000 to present day finally play out completely

TL;DR: bubbles only ever get bigger than the last one, never smaller

 

[HAL 9000]

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That was Then, But This is Now...

 

[HAL 9000]

Can’t wait for Skynet.

 

[ShaunSA]

My view is that it's very useful in some fields, not so much in others and shouldn't touch creative or artistic work in any way.

Software dev = very effective.
Fact checking = no.
Use for art, music or writing = hell no.

Just for you... a ton of great art. Better than anything Warhol ever did

Thread 'Your AI-generated Art'

Nov 17, 2023

I personally love the art that the AI generators come up with, based on the words you feed them. I have a need to share what it creates for me.

These are about a year old when I first discovered Midjourney

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[lived666]

AI, even in its current infancy, is incredible.
I have written and redesigned and modified e-commerce sites with coding that is way, way beyond my normal capabilities. I have made and designed specific cameras and software with Arduino and Raspberry Pi - things I couldn't even dream of doing on my own. I have designed banners, have written and designed code for a blog.
I can go on and on about the benefits it has given me, and sure it makes errors, and you often need to double-check and restart a project and you can go around in circles but I am having a blast creating things that are beyond my general skills and knowledge.

 

[Randomwasavailable]

Can’t wait for Skynet.

Good courier

 

[Randomwasavailable]

AI, even in its current infancy, is incredible.
I have written and redesigned and modified e-commerce sites with coding that is way, way beyond my normal capabilities. I have made and designed specific cameras and software with Arduino and Raspberry Pi - things I couldn't even dream of doing on my own. I have designed banners, have written and designed code for a blog.
I can go on and on about the benefits it has given me, and sure it makes errors, and you often need to double-check and restart a project and you can go around in circles but I am having a blast creating things that are beyond my general skills and knowledge.

Sounds like steroids for coding.

 

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

I use AI to do the slog work... it frees up my time to be creative.
I am currently not doing so great health-wise, so holding my pencil to do art is a challenge. It's not gout, or the other thing I can't remember the name of, but yes, decades of being on the receiving end of horrible bosses has broken my body.

I am waiting for SARS to pay my effing refund so that I can go get treatment to my back and the issue repaired. And if there's money left over I am blowing it on AI tokens.

But yes, AI allows me to finish an idea I already started in pencil, or partially completed. As an artist I naturally see the world very differently and somehow, the way I can prompt an AI to do my slog work for me, is paying off.

Yes it makes a mess of things, and sometimes what I do is take the AI output and do corrections in Photoshop

 

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

So, as an example, I drew this a few years ago, god I wish I could feel that energetic again and without all the pain.



So let's ask Gemini to finish it off...


That's exactly what I wanted... save for minor errors I can fix with Photoshop

 

[DarkStarMonday]

Good courier

Very good, still waiting for my items from last year.

 

[Zarnicate]

Company also forcing us to use AI.
As a coder I put short to the point comments in the code. Asking AI to add more descriptive comments is useful and time saving. Getting it to write some code not so much. It either uses very old obsolete code or tries to call something that doesn't exist wasting time going through it. At this point I just ask it for different ways to do something then pick one (after verifying the modules exist) and code it myself.

Speed is also an issue for me. I asked it to update some documentation.....by the time it was done I would have already updated it manually with other pages as well. It does allow you to tell it to do the update and you can proceed with other stuff which increases your productivity but if the boss wants the documentation now rather do it yourself.

It will probably improve with time but at this point it wastes more time.

On personal use it is great when you looking for something instead of going through many search results to get what you looking for just ask the AI and prompt it for more info.

 

[Gravedigger]

Company encouraged me to use AI (Claude and Codex)

But, still generates a lot of sloppy code, taking hallucinations as fact and doing things ahead or still doing things not asked for. Also sometimes loses context on what is still being written or asked for.

Documentation and anything that is explained/commented on, is still adding a lot of words that have no meaning, presumably to add more "weight". A well-trained eye can see it, as opposed to what a developer would have written.

AI is great and all, but 2 things:
1. Use it as a "tool", not a person developing a piece of software.
2. AI is a bubble, like the dotcom and housing market bubble. As soon as the money runs out, it will pop.

All these huge companies (OpenAI, Anthropic, etc) have a cost model that makes it attractive for businesses and individuals, paying 20USD for access to these AI models, but often these costs are way more than your 20USD per month.

I have run up a personal project's meter on Claude, and the total cost is close to 500USD. Been whacking it very hard.
But the point is, it is very expensive to run these sort of models, and the other costs is being absorbed by venture capitalists (Microslop, Meta, etc). VC's want their money, and everyone is doing it for the money, hardware being used as collateral for borrowing more money, which is never a good thing.

In my view, AI seems affordable, until they raise the prices.
There will be a influx of affordable, power-efficient chips that is designed specifically for these types of AI workloads. Probably on the horizon for the next 18-24 months.

Then these guys that ran up these costs in the billions, will probably never be able to absorb these costs, or recover it.

 

[Tr3bla]

What is your stance on AI?

It's useful but prone to abuse and misuse. It feels like a huge experiment that will blow up in our faces, and we would be lucky if it doesn't rip us to pieces but only leaves permanent stains!

 

[neoprema]

peanut butter

Did AI write this?

 

[Progenix Oj101]

My daughter is in Grade 8. Her homework this year has largely been "Use ChatGPT to this" or "Use ChatGPT to that." We're removing a generation's ability to think and learn how to do anything more than enter prompts.

 

[Randomwasavailable]

Very good, still waiting for my items from last year.

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[Bad Ballie]

I actually enjoy the time it has freed up for me. Tasks that used to take me from hours to days are now completed in less than half the time. The biggest issue is really having to double check everything it does.