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Midterms are coming. They're emptying their lie reserves. Pumps are pulling sludge but it's the only thing left in the tanks.
Grok
There is no evidence that this specific incident happened as Trump described.Trump has recounted a version of the story in which he went to the area near Ground Zero shortly after the 9/11 attacks (sometimes saying the day after), brought construction workers, heard creaking from a building he identified as the United States Steel Building, predicted it would collapse, and was physically grabbed/lifted and moved to safety by two large firemen.
Multiple FDNY officials who were present for extended periods, including former deputy chief Richard Alles (on site within minutes of the collapses and there for months), have stated they never saw Trump or large groups of his workers at the site in any meaningful capacity. Alles and others have noted that private crews would have operated under official supervision and left records, of which none have surfaced.
No contemporary news reports, photographs, witness accounts from first responders, or official documentation corroborate Trump being in a position where firemen physically carried him away from a creaking building, or of him directing substantial recovery work.

Grok
There is no evidence that this specific incident happened as Trump described.Trump has recounted a version of the story in which he went to the area near Ground Zero shortly after the 9/11 attacks (sometimes saying the day after), brought construction workers, heard creaking from a building he identified as the United States Steel Building, predicted it would collapse, and was physically grabbed/lifted and moved to safety by two large firemen.
Multiple FDNY officials who were present for extended periods, including former deputy chief Richard Alles (on site within minutes of the collapses and there for months), have stated they never saw Trump or large groups of his workers at the site in any meaningful capacity. Alles and others have noted that private crews would have operated under official supervision and left records, of which none have surfaced.
No contemporary news reports, photographs, witness accounts from first responders, or official documentation corroborate Trump being in a position where firemen physically carried him away from a creaking building, or of him directing substantial recovery work.
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