Netanyahu says Israel will control ‘all of Gaza’ after latest offensive

I read a thing yesterday about the episodes of Fauda where they cover the October 7th massacre. They were talking about comments posted by people saying they felt sick and how shocked they were etc. And of course they also had the people who stopped watching and said they refuse to watch "Zionist propoganda".

Exactly what these threads remind me of. No critical thinking or questionning, it's striaght to you are either a Zionist or it's propaganda or indeed @Wut's new one of 'hasbara' (lol).
 
Spizz said:
I read a thing yesterday about the episodes of Fauda where they cover the October 7th massacre. They were talking about comments posted by people saying they felt sick and how shocked they were etc. And of course they also had the people who stopped watching and said they refuse to watch "Zionist propoganda".

Exactly what these threads remind me of. No critical thinking or questionning, it's striaght to you are either a Zionist or it's propaganda or indeed @Wut's new one of 'hasbara' (lol).
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It goes both ways. People dismiss things as "Pallywood" "Gazawood" without even reading the articles
 
Spizz said:
I read a thing yesterday about the episodes of Fauda where they cover the October 7th massacre. They were talking about comments posted by people saying they felt sick and how shocked they were etc. And of course they also had the people who stopped watching and said they refuse to watch "Zionist propoganda".

Exactly what these threads remind me of. No critical thinking or questionning, it's striaght to you are either a Zionist or it's propaganda or indeed @Wut's new one of 'hasbara' (lol).
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Mike Hoxbig said:
You'll always get a few hardliners. But it would have put him in a much better position than he's currently in. The worst thing you can do as an entertainer is take a side, or appear to take one. Rather lose 100 people on both sides than 10,000 on one side...
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I think things have changed, specifically around what is going on in Gaza.

Dolly Parton seemed to have made the ''no sides'' angle work and it is something she was lauded for.

But today, and specifically when Palestine, Israel and Gaza come up, there is only really one side you can take.

Then again, Kanye went full 'Heil Hitler' and is still touring and selling tickets, but maybe he gets the legit untreated mental illness pass.
 
Cray said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/2100062773044777251

Yeah, what a monster :rolleyes:
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Just to be clear, Ed didn't say anything. It was Robert Kraft who took offence and then threatened to block Sheeran from performing in his stadium and further threatened to rally other venue and stadium owners to blackball him as well should he continue to allow Macklemore to open for him.

You can talk about Ed's relationship with Kraft and for buckling to his demand (Kraft is a politically connected billionaire) but just be clear that Ed up until this point had had no problem with Macklemore.
 
thestaggy said:
Just to be clear, Ed didn't say anything. It was Robert Kraft who took offence and then threatened to block Sheeran from performing in his stadium and further threatened to rally other venue and stadium owners to blackball him as well should he continue to allow Macklemore to open for him.

You can talk about Ed's relationship with Kraft and for buckling to his demand (Kraft is a politically connected billionaire) but just be clear that Ed up until this point had had no problem with Macklemore.
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Not really on board with the whole "Ed Sheeran is a monster", I think he took the easy route and decided not to fight this, but am also sure his promoter would have had agreements in place that can't just be cancelled on the whim of a stadium owner. But, for such a sensitive issue, it doesn't look good for a super successful star to take the easy way out.
 
Spizz said:
I read a thing yesterday about the episodes of Fauda where they cover the October 7th massacre. They were talking about comments posted by people saying they felt sick and how shocked they were etc. And of course they also had the people who stopped watching and said they refuse to watch "Zionist propoganda".

Exactly what these threads remind me of. No critical thinking or questionning, it's striaght to you are either a Zionist or it's propaganda or indeed @Wut's new one of 'hasbara' (lol).
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There is a lady that does tik tocks on how often Israel gets brought up in Tv shows, Its quite interesting.
 
Cray said:
Not really on board with the whole "Ed Sheeran is a monster", I think he took the easy route and decided not to fight this, but am also sure his promoter would have had agreements in place that can't just be cancelled on the whim of a stadium owner. But, for such a sensitive issue, it doesn't look good for a super successful star to take the easy way out.
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Having every last support act drop you afterwards is really not a good look, he's essentially left as the only one not taking a public stand against what has become an issue that is being unanimously condemned at this point. He's getting eviscerated on social media
 
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This is such a weird article... It claims that this kind of criticism is a strength of Israel right after commenting that the makers of the movie were threatened with having their citizenship revoked by the PM of the country?

This is also the country that does not permit any international journalists to operate in Gaza, yet this writer celebrates them as a bastion of free speach? Sure they are probably better than others in the region, but that is a really low bar...

If Israel was really as democratic as the author says, the threat of revocation of citizenship would have evoked a sh*t storm again Netenyahau, yet it hasn't.

Some background on the author so that you know where his sympathies lie...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giulio_Meotti

In his book Jews against Israel (2014)[6] Meotti took to task a large number of Jewish critics of Israel's behavior towards Palestinians, accusing them variously of intellectual treason, Jewish anti-Semitism, being self-hating Jews,[3] suffering from what he claimed was a 'pathology' of Jewish anti-Israelism, or being 'deranged (squilibrati) Jew-haters'. The list of notable Jews he censures for their attitudes towards Israel and defense Palestinian human rights includes George Steiner, philosopher Hannah Arendt, Franco-German politician Daniel Cohn-Bendit,[7] former Chancellor of Austria Bruno Kreisky, screenwriter Tony Kushner, director Steven Spielberg, British historian Eric Hobsbawm, moral philosopher Peter Singer, British politician Gerald Kaufman, French journalist Jean Daniel, French essayist Dominique Vidal, Argentinian civil rights activist Jacobo Timerman, rabbi Arnold Wolf, philosopher Edgar Morin, the United Nations special rapporteur for Palestinian rights Richard A. Falk, the American historian Norman Finkelstein, English film director Mike Leigh, neuroscientist Steven Rose and sociologist Hilary Rose, his wife, rabbi Michael Lerner, playwright Harold Pinter, philosopher Judith Butler, historian Tony Judt, orientalist scholar Maxime Rodinson, Italian novelist Natalia Ginzburg, Italian Germanist Cesare Cases, antifascist intellectual Emilio Sereni, poet and literary critic Franco Fortini, Italian journalist Gad Lerner, Italian playwright and musician Moni Ovadia,[7] Israeli biochemist and Jewish intellectual Yeshayahu Leibowitz, Israeli historian Shlomo Sand, Israeli political geographer Oren Yiftachel, Israeli political scientist Neve Gordon, Israeli journalist Amira Hass, Israeli historian Moshe Zimmermann, Israeli historian Ilan Pappé, Israeli conflict theorist Lev Grinberg, Israeli historians Tom Segev and Idith Zertal, Argentinian musician and comic Danny Rabinovitch, Israeli novelists Amos Oz, David Grossman, and Abraham Yehoshua, Argentinian conductor Daniel Barenboim, diplomat Martin Indyk, survivors of the Holocaust, such as Warsaw ghetto survivor Marek Edelman, Marion Kozak (mother of David Miliband and Ed Miliband), sociologist Zygmunt Bauman, resistance leader Stéphane Hessel, Israeli political scientist Zeev Sternhell, French historian Pierre Vidal-Naquet, Italian writer Primo Levi,[7] and Polish historian Isaac Deutscher.[8]
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For all his crowing about free speech, he really doesn't like people criticising Israel.
 
thestaggy said:
I think things have changed, specifically around what is going on in Gaza.

Dolly Parton seemed to have made the ''no sides'' angle work and it is something she was lauded for.

But today, and specifically when Palestine, Israel and Gaza come up, there is only really one side you can take.

Then again, Kanye went full 'Heil Hitler' and is still touring and selling tickets, but maybe he gets the legit untreated mental illness pass.
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Kanye is bipolar (not kidding) and black. So he's either going to get away with it or nobody takes it seriously. Probably both...
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
Kanye is bipolar (not kidding) and black. So he's either going to get away with it or nobody takes it seriously. Probably both...
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Yep, that is why I mentioned ''legit untreated mental illness pass'', because he was clearly manic and off of his meds.

Chris Brown battered Rihanna and he is still going strong. He actually had his image and reputation rehabbed after originally being cancelled.
 
Cray said:
This is such a weird article... It claims that this kind of criticism is a strength of Israel right after commenting that the makers of the movie were threatened with having their citizenship revoked by the PM of the country?
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So the PM is a megalomaniac who is widely disliked and criticised for his actions. By Israeli's.

Cray said:
This is also the country that does not permit any international journalists to operate in Gaza,
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There's a war on.

Cray said:
yet this writer celebrates them as a bastion of free speach? Sure they are probably better than others in the region, but that is a really low bar...
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Lol, probably. He even gives examples. Mind you, none from Gaza because there is none to give. There is no free speech.

Cray said:
If Israel was really as democratic as the author says, the threat of revocation of citizenship would have evoked a sh*t storm again Netenyahau, yet it hasn't.
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People are free to choose. Maybe they don't like treasonous traitors who sell their soul for a 25 minute ovation from lovies?

Cray said:
Some background on the author so that you know where his sympathies lie...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giulio_Meotti



For all his crowing about free speech, he really doesn't like people criticising Israel.
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As is his right.

But telling that you fight hard to bring up the odd 'weird' point, but at no time agree with any points he makes. Is it all BS?
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
Kanye is bipolar (not kidding) and black. So he's either going to get away with it or nobody takes it seriously. Probably both...
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Nah its all about Kraft choosing sides and playing around with cancel culture.

He's Pro Israel.

They knew exactly what Kanye sang, celebrated and danced to it, but thought us Goyim would not realise or remember it, Kraft and he's cabal don't want you to side with Palestinian kids, it goes against the Israeli occupying force.

He's Netenyahu's close friend and a big donor to AIPAC.

Worse part is he doesn't own the damn stadium, he is part owner and the freaking state subsidises the stadium, making it worse and more objectionable. 🤮
 
Spizz said:
So the PM is a megalomaniac who is widely disliked and criticised for his actions. By Israeli's.
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Someone in that country voted for him, wonder what the excuse will be if he wins this next election..:unsure:
Spizz said:
There's a war on.
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Democracies with nothing to hide seldom prohibit journalists in a war zone, Vietnam and Iraq all allowed international journalists. I guess Israeli concern for reporter safety is semi legitimate considering how Israel seems to have a penchant fir killing journalists in Gaza, but i guess even Israel cant sell the idea that international journalists all work for Hamas.

Spizz said:
People are free to choose. Maybe they don't like treasonous traitors who sell their soul for a 25 minute ovation from lovies?
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So Jews that speak out against the conflict and the bad behaviour of the IDF are treasonous traitors?


Spizz said:
But telling that you fight hard to bring up the odd 'weird' point, but at no time agree with any points he makes. Is it all BS?
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Praising a democracy for its "freedom to criticise" while quickly skipping over the part where the PM threatened to strip critics of citizenship ...yeah, mostly BS.
 
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Cray said:
Someone in that country voted for him, wonder what the excuse will be if he wins this next election..:unsure:

Democracies with nothing to hide seldom prohibit journalists in a war zone, Vietnam and Iraq all allowed international journalists. I guess Israeli concern for reporter safety is semi legitimate considering how Israel seems to have a penchant fir killing journalists in Gaza, but i guess even Israel cant sell the idea that international journalists all work for Hamas.


So Jews that speak out against the conflict and the bad behaviour of the IDF are treasonous traitors?



Praising a democracy for its "freedom to criticise" while not skipping over the part where the PM threatened to strip critics citizenship ...yeah, mostly BS.
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Stop being biased by picking on the neutral guy...
 
Cray said:
Someone in that country voted for him, wonder what the excuse will be if he wins this next election..:unsure:
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No doubt the same as SA where we will all celebrate as ANC supporters.

Cray said:
Democracies with nothing to hide seldom prohibit journalists in a war zone, Vietnam and Iraq all allowed international journalists. I guess Israeli concern for reporter safety is semi legitimate considering how Israel seems to have a penchant fir killing journalists in Gaza, but i guess even Israel cant sell the idea that international journalists all work for Hamas.
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Still nothing about the free press?

Cray said:
So Jews that speak out against the conflict and the bad behaviour of the IDF are treasonous traitors?
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That seems to be the sentiment. Did you read the piece?

Cray said:
Praising a democracy for its "freedom to criticise" while quickly skipping over the part where the PM threatened to strip critics of citizenship ...yeah, mostly BS.
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Lol. Of course it is.

Just saying, if it was in Gaza it wouldn’t be citizenship stripped, it would be dragged behind a motorbike for a while before being chucked from a building.

But sure, go ahead and criticize the free press, the human rights and the right to protest by equating them to the PM.
 
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