SA Politics Part 14 - The New Dawn turns to Dusk

Sideshow Bob said:
You are on record saying that you believe in the literal Adam Eve origin and that universe was 6000 years old.

Whatever rest you put is just coping mechanism and you are trying to establish some credibility in the forumites.

But it is ok. Christians are known to practice Taqiyya too. Keep on lying.
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No it's not coping. It is true.
I'm not sold on 6000 exactly. I haven't done the math myself, but I am a young earth creationist. Less than 20 000
 
Inertia said:
Wasn't the venerable VF+ supposed to fix the prisons? What have they been doing for 2 years?

www.dailymaverick.co.za

Where criminals rule the roost — Correctional Services boss outlines SA prisons’ parlous state

Correctional Services head Makgothi Thobakgale has described the state of South Africa’s overcrowded prisons – gang infiltration persists, inmates still have access to cellphones, and illicit drugs ar…
www.dailymaverick.co.za www.dailymaverick.co.za
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We need more overcrowding. This is libtard nonsense about criminal rights.
 
Inertia said:
Wasn't the venerable VF+ supposed to fix the prisons? What have they been doing for 2 years?

www.dailymaverick.co.za

Where criminals rule the roost — Correctional Services boss outlines SA prisons’ parlous state

Correctional Services head Makgothi Thobakgale has described the state of South Africa’s overcrowded prisons – gang infiltration persists, inmates still have access to cellphones, and illicit drugs ar…
www.dailymaverick.co.za www.dailymaverick.co.za
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Keeping the jails full now the criminals cry about it.
 
rietrot said:
No it's not coping. It is true.
I'm not sold on 6000 exactly. I haven't done the math myself, but I am a young earth creationist. Less than 20 000
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There is irrefutable proof that the Earth is much, much older than 20,000 years.
 
Grant said:

ANC turns up heat on Alan Winde over 'secretive' US trip amid tariff squeeze​



iol.co.za

ANC turns up heat on Alan Winde over 'secretive' US trip amid tariff squeeze

The ANC has put Western Cape Premier Alan Winde on the spot over his US trip, demanding to know who is paying for it, who he is meeting and what he intends to achieve while American tariffs continue to squeeze the province’s farmers and exporters.
iol.co.za iol.co.za
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Probably treason.
A politician appointed in a official government role, like the premier of a province has no business going overseas to discuss (his own version) of South African foreign policy with another country.

It looks really bad.
 
From the Daily Disappointment page on FB...

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SARS Hands Tembisa Tender Boss a R1.9 Billion Math Lesson

Morgan Maumela probably thought he was running the ultimate healthcare syndicate.

But it turns out the only institution operating with actual surgical precision in South Africa is the revenue service.

SARS just handed the alleged "tender don" of the Tembisa Hospital corruption scandal a brutal reality check. A tax bill worth a mind blowing R1.9 billion.

Following a massive crackdown on his financial activities, SARS took a very close look at the MHR Family Trust. Maumela and his relatives act as trustees for this little venture.

Investigators found what they politely described as intentional tax evasion and obstructive behavior between 2018 and 2022.

The trust officially declared a modest income of just R13 million. Yet somehow they tried to claim over R1 billion in unverified loans and massive salaries as tax deductions. They did this while completely forgetting to even register for employee tax.

Out of all those creative financial gymnastics, the only actual business expense SARS could successfully verify was roughly R50,000 in routine bank charges. The rest was just pure fiction.

Now Maumela is staring down a formal assessment letter demanding exactly R1,929,830,817.

That spectacular figure includes normal tax, severe penalties, and enough accumulated interest to probably build a brand new hospital.

You can siphon billions out of the public health system while politicians look the other way. You can dodge accountability for years.

But the absolute second you try to claim a billion rand in fake tax deductions, the taxman will arrive to permanently ruin your aesthetic.

Link to FB post here.
 
HAL 9000 said:
From the Daily Disappointment page on FB...

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SARS Hands Tembisa Tender Boss a R1.9 Billion Math Lesson

Morgan Maumela probably thought he was running the ultimate healthcare syndicate.

But it turns out the only institution operating with actual surgical precision in South Africa is the revenue service.

SARS just handed the alleged "tender don" of the Tembisa Hospital corruption scandal a brutal reality check. A tax bill worth a mind blowing R1.9 billion.

Following a massive crackdown on his financial activities, SARS took a very close look at the MHR Family Trust. Maumela and his relatives act as trustees for this little venture.

Investigators found what they politely described as intentional tax evasion and obstructive behavior between 2018 and 2022.

The trust officially declared a modest income of just R13 million. Yet somehow they tried to claim over R1 billion in unverified loans and massive salaries as tax deductions. They did this while completely forgetting to even register for employee tax.

Out of all those creative financial gymnastics, the only actual business expense SARS could successfully verify was roughly R50,000 in routine bank charges. The rest was just pure fiction.

Now Maumela is staring down a formal assessment letter demanding exactly R1,929,830,817.

That spectacular figure includes normal tax, severe penalties, and enough accumulated interest to probably build a brand new hospital.

You can siphon billions out of the public health system while politicians look the other way. You can dodge accountability for years.

But the absolute second you try to claim a billion rand in fake tax deductions, the taxman will arrive to permanently ruin your aesthetic.

Link to FB post here.
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This is all fine but these criminals should face the jail. He probably looted way more than 2 billions so he probably won't care.
 
ToxicBunny said:
Rubbish, that was all made up by evil Communists.
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Honestly, I am not a Christian or ex-Christian but IRL, do you meet such type of people? I met just one guy in SA who argued about young earth. He was a project manager so hopefully not a dumbo but that has nothing to do with religious beliefs that are often nutcase.
 
Sideshow Bob said:
This is all fine but these criminals should face the jail. He probably looted way more than 2 billions so he probably won't care.
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With penalties and everything that is probably 60% of the profit of what he looted. If SARS correctly established his income. If some journalists actually cared the total tender amounts should be public.

But easy come easy go. The money is gone so it won't be that easy to now pay his taxes.
 
Sideshow Bob said:
This is all fine but these criminals should face the jail. He probably looted way more than 2 billions so he probably won't care.
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I don't know how much he looted but I am sure he cares, lawyers are very expensive, if you are going to go on a lengthy legal battle to stay out of jail, you will need every billion.
 
Sideshow Bob said:
Honestly, I am not a Christian or ex-Christian but IRL, do you meet such type of people? I met just one guy in SA who argued about young earth. He was a project manager so hopefully not a dumbo but that has nothing to do with religious beliefs that are often nutcase.
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I've met one person of such a sort in SA from what I can remember... they were a bit loopy so didn't hang around for very long.
 
HAL 9000 said:
From the Daily Disappointment page on FB...

View attachment 1938463

SARS Hands Tembisa Tender Boss a R1.9 Billion Math Lesson

Morgan Maumela probably thought he was running the ultimate healthcare syndicate.

But it turns out the only institution operating with actual surgical precision in South Africa is the revenue service.

SARS just handed the alleged "tender don" of the Tembisa Hospital corruption scandal a brutal reality check. A tax bill worth a mind blowing R1.9 billion.

Following a massive crackdown on his financial activities, SARS took a very close look at the MHR Family Trust. Maumela and his relatives act as trustees for this little venture.

Investigators found what they politely described as intentional tax evasion and obstructive behavior between 2018 and 2022.

The trust officially declared a modest income of just R13 million. Yet somehow they tried to claim over R1 billion in unverified loans and massive salaries as tax deductions. They did this while completely forgetting to even register for employee tax.

Out of all those creative financial gymnastics, the only actual business expense SARS could successfully verify was roughly R50,000 in routine bank charges. The rest was just pure fiction.

Now Maumela is staring down a formal assessment letter demanding exactly R1,929,830,817.

That spectacular figure includes normal tax, severe penalties, and enough accumulated interest to probably build a brand new hospital.

You can siphon billions out of the public health system while politicians look the other way. You can dodge accountability for years.

But the absolute second you try to claim a billion rand in fake tax deductions, the taxman will arrive to permanently ruin your aesthetic.

Link to FB post here.
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That's talking 10bn in pre tax income😲
 
R13... said:
That's talking 10bn in pre tax income😲
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No? These corrupt tenderpreneurs make 1000% profits so there's likely no real business expenses to consider, and SARS apparently said non of that BS.

Corporate tax is 27% + 20% dividend withholding if you want get money out of a company
Personal income tax is 45%.

For an easy calculation you can just double whatever they say and get a reasonable approximate amount.
 
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