Main reasons you wouldn't get an EV?

Main reasons you wouldn't get an EV?

  • Cost

    Votes: 63 39.1%

  • Range anxiety

    Votes: 32 19.9%

  • Impracticality of long-distance driving

    Votes: 45 28.0%

  • Depreciation (secondhand resale value)

    Votes: 37 23.0%

  • Battery lifespan/replacement cost

    Votes: 45 28.0%

  • Lack of local support - parts replacement etc

    Votes: 18 11.2%

  • Just too many unknowns - maybe I will in a few years

    Votes: 28 17.4%

  • Lack of charging infrastructure

    Votes: 45 28.0%

  • Nothing beats the roar of a proper combustion engine

    Votes: 21 13.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 9 5.6%
  • Total voters
    161
Slckrck said:
True, but how much will it cost you to get your Getz to do it....that Inster can do what it does for far cheaper and if you have solar charging at home, even better.
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I was actually curious about exactly that the costs of a comparable ICE to a EV, and yes that is where the prices swing in the EV's favour especially on a long journey,

but then the charge times, even on a fast charger, almost an hour to fill up, and thats assuming you have a charger, it isnt broken,
or occupied,

so still a ways to go till you can wave goodbye to a ICE as your only vehicle, despite all the positives on a EV
 
Other: I have a car that I don't use often and don't need a second car. I would only get one as a second car.
 
Range itself is not a problem. Currently, in South Africa, a lack of charging points and the cost when one is found, is a problem. I am currently in the UK and have covered over 8000 km, mainly in England. I am using my Son's Prius, and getting 4,6 per 100km, giving a usable range of 800km. I was offered the use of his Leaf, but refused because I thought that recharging would be problematic.
I was wrong. Charging points are available at virtually every Hotel, all roadside stops, and all supermarkets. Charging would not have been a problem whilst shopping, taking a break, or overnight.
The major problem would have been cost. Charging at Home costs my Son 7P. Reselling electricity, he gets 12P. Charging at a charger in the wild is north of 60P.
The Leaf gets 230 miles of range, which would have covered all our journeys bar one.
The cost to me would have been higher with the Leaf than with the Prius, but both would have been cheaper than a conventional vehicle.
One major advantage with using a battery-powered vehicle is in traffic jams, both will creep forward silently.
 
Billy said:
Range itself is not a problem. Currently, in South Africa, a lack of charging points and the cost when one is found, is a problem. I am currently in the UK and have covered over 8000 km, mainly in England. I am using my Son's Prius, and getting 4,6 per 100km, giving a usable range of 800km. I was offered the use of his Leaf, but refused because I thought that recharging would be problematic.
I was wrong. Charging points are available at virtually every Hotel, all roadside stops, and all supermarkets. Charging would not have been a problem whilst shopping, taking a break, or overnight.
The major problem would have been cost. Charging at Home costs my Son 7P. Reselling electricity, he gets 12P. Charging at a charger in the wild is north of 60P.
The Leaf gets 230 miles of range, which would have covered all our journeys bar one.
The cost to me would have been higher with the Leaf than with the Prius, but both would have been cheaper than a conventional vehicle.
One major advantage with using a battery-powered vehicle is in traffic jams, both will creep forward silently.
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Ok, cost really isn't that bad. It is roughly double home charging rates at about R7/kwh.
 
Jet-Fighter7700 said:
I was actually curious about exactly that the costs of a comparable ICE to a EV, and yes that is where the prices swing in the EV's favour especially on a long journey,

but then the charge times, even on a fast charger, almost an hour to fill up, and thats assuming you have a charger, it isnt broken,
or occupied,

so still a ways to go till you can wave goodbye to a ICE as your only vehicle, despite all the positives on a EV
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Tbf if you're buying an EV, you should do so if you can charge at home. Charging times of over 40 minutes is only for long journeys from low battery. Most people don't need a full battery everyday. If you can't charge at home the best option is PHEV or EREV for now. You run mostly on electricity with a petrol backup. But how many people travel 50+km per day?
 
TofuMofu said:
Other: I have a car that I don't use often and don't need a second car. I would only get one as a second car.
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This ^^

Plus so many other boxes that need ticking that I can't be bothered to vote. Come on people, this is SA, how is anything new let alone electric expected to be a stable enough usage market longer term.

It's ok, but will always be niche here.
 
Jean Claude Vaaldamme said:
I have said it before.
Almost everyone I know that drives a Hilux/Fortuner is always worried where they park, if its safe, will it be stolen. Why the hell would you want to live like that?
Same for these EV's. Why would I want to drive something that I will always worry if I am going to make it. Have to plan routes and see if there are charging along the way. Totally ridiculous.
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For SA EV market I totally agree.

Ideal would be an EV with 550+ range, and infrastructure to charge at every pump station in the country....

That being said, there are decent range EVs on Euro and USA market.

Also, second hand ones are a good deal once the first owner took the loss on depreciation. For most of these below, Price drop to around 25k to 30k (Euro) within 3 years, and battery life only drops by around 4-6% in the first 3 years


Tesla Model 3 Long Range RWD~629 km
Hyundai Ioniq 6 Long Range RWD~614 km
]Kia EV4 Fastback Long Range~625 km
Tesla Model Y Premium RWD~500 km
Škoda Elroq Sportline~500+ km
Renault Scenic E-Tech Iconic~625 km
BYD Atto 3 Evo Design~510 km
 
Cost is definitely the main factor for me, then service/parts availability and then charging infrastructure.

Both range anxiety and long distance travel are negated by good infrastructure.
 
handyman007 said:
How would costs compare if I don't have a solar setup at home?
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Comparing to other smallish automatic vehicles.

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Assumptions here:
The calculation assumes 15,000 km/year, or 75,000 km over five years and 150,000 km over ten. Petrol is calculated at the projected October 2026 coastal 95 ULP price of R28.46/L.

For the Geely E2, I've used 13.8 kWh/100 km measured from the wall, which incorporates an allowance for AC charging losses. At the conservative above-600-kWh household tariff of R4.6906/kWh incl. VAT, this gives a charging cost of approximately R64.73/100 km. †The E2's underlying vehicle consumption is lower; 13.8 kWh is the estimated amount purchased from the grid after charging losses.

The 5- and 10-year totals are purchase price + energy only. They deliberately exclude depreciation, servicing, insurance, finance, tyres and repairs.
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I'm sure ev's will evolve quite fast. I'm waiting for an ev with a 600km range that doesn't cost 7 figures. At the rate things are going I'm probably buying one somehwere over the next few months.
 
Range and charging won't be a problem for me. Everyone on the internet drives 1000km per day into remote areas, and tows a 3500kg trailer. I don't. I'll be charging at home 99.9% of the time, ideally on solar, and for the rest, I see charging stations everywhere already. Malls, guest houses, parking garages and fuel stations.

What is holding me back is cost, and I'm worried about how long the vehicle will last.
 
notayoba said:
Range and charging won't be a problem for me. Everyone on the internet drives 1000km per day into remote areas, and tows a 3500kg trailer. I don't. I'll be charging at home 99.9% of the time, ideally on solar, and for the rest, I see charging stations everywhere already. Malls, guest houses, parking garages and fuel stations.

What is holding me back is cost, and I'm worried about how long the vehicle will last.
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There is an 8 year warranty on most batteries. That means after 8 years of use if the condition is lower than 80% they replace the battery.

For everything else in the car, it will last longer than any ICE vehicle.
 
Perhaps in 5 yrs time, when the technology has reached some sort of a maturity stage and the long term reliability & maintenance costs data becomes available.

For now I'm enjoying the newly acquired diesel !!!
 
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