Jetour in hot water over T1 and T2 SUV claims in South Africa

Oh no, it's the evil Chineses again!!!

Here's a Golf 8 GTI:
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Tiguan:
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Rav 4:
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Audi Q3:
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But let's go pick on the Chinese even though it's within the same range as everyone else...
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
Oh no, it's the evil Chineses again!!!

Here's a Golf 8 GTI:
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Tiguan:
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Rav 4:
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Audi Q3:
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But let's go pick on the Chinese even though it's within the same range as everyone else...
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You need to read the article again - even though it's a bit impenetrable.

The issues is that the Jetours were homologated (and thus licensed) at a 300kg payload. That's what's on the license disk. So if you put 4 adults and a tank of fuel into one, and are then stopped at a roadblock/weighbridge and weighed, you're in deep KFC-demand territory.

Their rating was updated to the numbers you're quoting but with no supporting mechanical or spec changes.
 
Sinbad said:
You need to read the article again - even though it's a bit impenetrable.

The issues is that the Jetours were homologated (and thus licensed) at a 300kg payload. That's what's on the license disk. So if you put 4 adults and a tank of fuel into one, and are then stopped at a roadblock/weighbridge and weighed, you're in deep KFC-demand territory.

Their rating was updated to the numbers you're quoting but with no supporting mechanical or spec changes.
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Sure, that's the main issue. You would get a fine if the cops actually test the weight because it's not the same as what the disc says. Not that any SA cop is actually interested in that.

The actual safety which is what they start off questioning, is within the same range as everyone else, according to the numbers from their own independent testing...
 
Progenix Oj101 said:
I'm fairly sure VW, Toyota, Audi etc didn't arbitrarily increase their payloads by 58% though?
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Except the AA tested it themselves.

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Which means Jetour actually under-reported initially. Hence creating the license disc issue that they spend the rest of the article complaining about, after initially trying to create a safety concern...
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
Sure, that's the main issue. You would get a fine if the cops actually test the weight because it's not the same as what the disc says. Not that any SA cop is actually interested in that.

The actual safety which is what they start off questioning, is within the same range as everyone else, according to the numbers from their own independent testing...
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No - they're questioning how Jetour can apply for increased max GVM without any underlying changes to the vehicle.
The AA tests are actually weighing the vehicle - not any form of safety test.
 
Sinbad said:
No - they're questioning how Jetour can apply for increased max GVM without any underlying changes to the vehicle.
The AA tests are actually weighing the vehicle - not any form of safety test.
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Yes which according to their own testing shows that Jetour under-reported the payload variance initially. Why would structural changes be needed, other than to tick off some legal requirement. They stuffed up, but it's not as bad as over-reporting...
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
Yes which according to their own testing shows that Jetour under-reported the payload variance initially. Why would structural changes be needed, other than to tick off some legal requirement. They stuffed up, but it's not as bad as over-reporting...
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Unless the initial number they provided was their design number, then when called out they arbitrarily changed it?
 
Sinbad said:
Unless the initial number they provided was their design number, then when called out they arbitrarily changed it?
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I get the arbitrarily changing part. I'm not sure what the initial number was.

Let's set aside that part for now. Their issue is also that it wasn't independently tested:
This was flagged by the AA, which questioned how Jetour had improved the cars’ payload figures without changing the vehicles in any way.

The association said that, without independent testing, this was a case of the manufacturer “marking its own homework.”
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Which their own independent testing shows to be within range of the updated figures (475 kg).

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After which the narrative then changed to license discs.

“This implies that existing owners are, by law, still subjected to the lower weighting listed on their licence discs in a roadblock or at a weighbridge.”

The AA insisted that Jetour issue a recall for all affected customers and advise them of the legislative and law-enforcement risks associated with the licence disc weight-rating.

“Jetour owners currently face considerable consequences from traffic authorities in a roadblock should a concern be raised over weighting being applied to the vehicle. The end-of-year holiday season will only be a catalyst for this concern,” it warned.
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So to go back to the initial issue about making structural changes when applying for increase GVM - their own testing clearly shows that it's within range of the updated figures (except that Explora model). What structural changes would the AA like them to make, when it already conforms...
 
The initial numbers were close to 300kg.

And you're conflating safety testing with the new GVM vs the AA's weight testing to check conformance with the GVM numbers.
 
TopAuto said:
The Automobile Association argues that Jetour should issue a recall for its T1 and T2 SUVs due to safety concerns.
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Another article that feels like it is "pay-walled". Shan't be bothering with TopAuto articles again.
 
For me, the questions arising from what the vehicle is safe for or not, has written this vehicle off my radar. I never want to be in doubt behind such a wheel. Safe or not, the vehicles I am looking at now does not include any chinese or indian manufacturers.
 
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