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Your style of moron is really special, even setting aside the fact it was publicly proclaimed as part of Ukraine by Vladimir Putin is the small fact for around 1400 years of the last 2000 it was Byzantine and then Ottoman…
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Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 11
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Your style of moron is really special, even setting aside the fact it was publicly proclaimed as part of Ukraine by Vladimir Putin is the small fact for around 1400 years of the last 2000 it was Byzantine and then Ottoman…
Sure bud.
Catherine the Great — The Empress Who Remade Russia | HistorIQly Chronicles
The German princess who seized the Russian throne in a coup, corresponded with Voltaire, conquered Crimea, and ruled the largest empire on earth for thirty-four years — told in her own words.
Dave
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Sure bud.
Do the Byzantines and Ottomans today (LOL) know that Crimea is theirs? Would think they'd be pretty vocal, right?Catherine the Great — The Empress Who Remade Russia | HistorIQly Chronicles
The German princess who seized the Russian throne in a coup, corresponded with Voltaire, conquered Crimea, and ruled the largest empire on earth for thirty-four years — told in her own words.chronicles.historiqly.com
You know there’s this thing called Google what would help you with facts, bud? LOL
Dave
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It is good, like Poostain Putin in 2008?
Putin's 2008 Comments On Crimea, Before A Sharp Change Of Tack
In an interview with Germany's ARD television in 2008, Russian President Vladimir Putin stated that Moscow recognizes all of Ukraine's borders, and that there is no issue of ethnic conflict in Crimea. His comments stand in stark contrast with Moscow's annexation of Crimea in 2014.
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"No issue of ethnic conflict in Crimea" has a meaning. And it has nothing to do with what you're imagining.It is good, like Poostain Putin in 2008?
Putin's 2008 Comments On Crimea, Before A Sharp Change Of Tack
In an interview with Germany's ARD television in 2008, Russian President Vladimir Putin stated that Moscow recognizes all of Ukraine's borders, and that there is no issue of ethnic conflict in Crimea. His comments stand in stark contrast with Moscow's annexation of Crimea in 2014.
ForceFate
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This is not entirely true. Lol. I said you're spreading lies on a wrong platform. Putin isn't worth listening to either way.
Dave
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Dave
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Russia recognised Ukraine's borders and its declaration of neutrality (July 16, 1990, with the adoption of the Declaration on State Sovereignty of Ukraine by the Verkhovna Rada), which was carried forward into Ukraine's Act of Declaration of Independence on August 24, 1991.
Since Ukraine starting fooling around with reverting that decision, Putin made it very clear what its response would be, were neutrality to be in jeopardy (notably Munich, 2007). When the Russian speakers were being shelled in the Donbas, Putin acted, after the fake Minsk agreements were dangled for many years to buy time. Hence the DPR and LPR.
Sevastopol has been the home of the Black Sea Fleet since 1783 (i.e. Catherine the Great) and if anyone thinks that Russia is willing to give that up, or is not able to maintain that, they are delusional and will be proven so.
ToxicBunny
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The level of stupid is astounding.
What do you expect from Russian dogs.
ForceFate
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It wasn't up to Russia to recognise Ukraine's independence. Russia was still de jure member of the Soviet Union at the time. Dissolution of the Soviet Union happened after Ukraine left the Union.
Dave
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Ukraine should seriously consider getting some, it would lighten the load on jets for things like drone interception.
ToxicBunny
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History and reality are not his strong points.
Russia formally recognized Ukraine's borders in the 1994 Budapest Memorandum and again in the 1997 Friendship Treaty. Ukraine's 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty expressed an intention to become permanently neutral. Russia took them at their word. Ukraine reneged on this agreement.
The 1994 Budapest Memorandum (signed by Russia, along with the US and UK) reaffirmed its commitment to respect Ukraine's independence, sovereignty, and existing borders in exchange for Ukraine giving up its nuclear arsenal. Russia's position is that this commitment was tied to Ukraine maintaining its non-aligned status, and that Ukraine's later shift toward NATO released Russia from the obligation. C'est la vie.