UK Politics: (the battle of the YouTube channels)

Cray said:
The original link was a discussion between Jacob-Rees Mogg and Tucker Carlson about Britains entry into WW2, the premise being that Britain (and the world) is a worse place because Hitler was defeated. I compared the Nazi's under Hitler to Russia under Putin - he took that to mean (somehow) that I hate Russians. I don't hate Russians under Putin, I don't hate Germans, I don't hate Americans just because of Trump and I don't hate israeli's just because of Bibi.

The mere fact that we can't empathise or get the full story about the lives of average Russians because they stifle sfree speech is part of the problem. We empathise with the US, because, despite all their faults, they still allow their own citizens the freedom to say what they want. That alone makes the US better than Russia.


Again, why does every discussion about Russia under Putin seems to get Pivoted to "USA bad too". You certainly won't see me defending this latest sh*tshow in Iran. But America is a demonstrably better society (currently) than Russian in many ways because of the freedoms allowed and the fact that they don't persecute LGBTQ people.
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100% in agreement on all points. I didn't read through properly so didn't get reference.
 
The Voice said:
Who didn't see this coming?

www.express.co.uk

Horror as prisoner freed early by Labour stabs mum-of-two to death

(Warning: Distressing content) Someone has seriously messed up here
www.express.co.uk www.express.co.uk
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Not that I want to minimise the murder, it had nothing to do with early release.

He was sentenced at Kingston upon Thames Crown Court to 12 months in prison in May last year for possession of a knife and harassment without violence. Sabat was released under the Government scheme by October.
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So sentenced to 12 months in May 2025, under the standard good behaviour rules he could have been released after 6 months ie November 2025.
 
www.theguardian.com

Nearly all women arriving on small boats have been raped, says Shabana Mahmood

Home secretary warns people traffickers will exploit asylum seekers because they decide who comes to the UK
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

Nearly all women who try to reach the UK in small boats from northern France have been raped on their journey, Shabana Mahmood has claimed.

In an interview with The Rest Is Politics podcast, the home secretary said far-right, balaclava-wearing activists would “kill” or “kick me out of my own country” if they took power.
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So, just keep letting in the men who would just rape and murder you instead? And again, peddling the lie that the "far-right" is the biggest threat to our safety, despite only making up less than 5% on MI5's watch list (the ones she's letting in are from the same clan that make up the majority).
 
The Voice said:
www.theguardian.com

Nearly all women arriving on small boats have been raped, says Shabana Mahmood

Home secretary warns people traffickers will exploit asylum seekers because they decide who comes to the UK
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com



So, just keep letting in the men who would just rape and murder you instead? And again, peddling the lie that the "far-right" is the biggest threat to our safety, despite only making up less than 5% on MI5's watch list (the ones she's letting in are from the same clan that make up the majority).
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That's shocking, but where are these women? We are told it's all fighting age men. 🤔
 
Dave said:
Not that I want to minimise the murder, it had nothing to do with early release.



So sentenced to 12 months in May 2025, under the standard good behaviour rules he could have been released after 6 months ie November 2025.
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I can only imagine he frantically searches every minute like "Find me all the immigrant prisoners that have reoffended. If you find muslim prisoners, I will donate 20 pounds to your cause" or something like that.

He is just cherry picking to pin it on labour. Meanwhile..check reoffending percentage since 2005.

UK Ministry of Justice / GOV.UK sources.

  1. Proven reoffending statistics — July 2011 to June 2012
    Includes the 45.5% rate for adults released from custody.
    GOV.UK — July 2011 to June 2012
  2. Proven reoffending statistics — July 2010 to June 2011
    Official earlier-year reoffending statistics and definitions.
    GOV.UK — July 2010 to June 2011
  3. Earlier editions of proven reoffending statistics
    This is particularly useful because it contains links to the older 2009–10, 2010–11 and earlier tables, including the underlying Excel datasets.
    GOV.UK — Earlier editions
  4. National Data Library — Proven re-offending statistics
    A particularly useful index of the historical datasets, including tables going back to the 2000s.
    UK National Data Library — Proven re-offending statistics
  5. Proven reoffending statistics — January to December 2013
    Contains the underlying 2013 tables and data tools.
    GOV.UK — January to December 2013
  6. Proven reoffending statistics — July 2013 to June 2014
    Includes the detailed tables and data tools for this period.
    GOV.UK — July 2013 to June 2014
  7. Proven reoffending statistics — January to December 2014
    Contains the 2014 reoffending tables and overview data tool.
    GOV.UK — January to December 2014
  8. Proven reoffending statistics — April 2014 to March 2015
    Another official dataset with underlying tables.
    GOV.UK — April 2014 to March 2015
  9. Proven reoffending statistics — April to June 2024
    The latest period I cited in the previous answer; it reports 37.5% for adults released from custody or starting a court order.
    GOV.UK — April to June 2024
  10. Offender Management Statistics — October to December 2024
    This is the source for the 57,277 prison releases in 2024 figure.
    GOV.UK — Offender Management Statistics 2024
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Period | Adult prisoners released who reoffended
----------|-----------------------------------------
2005 | ~48–50%
2006 | ~48–50%
2007 | ~48–50%
2008 | ~48–50%
2009 | ~47–49%
2010 | ~47–49%
2011 | 46.9%
2012 | 45.5%
2013 | 45.2%
2014 | ~45%
2015 | ~45–46%
2016 | ~44–45%
2017 | ~43–44%
2018 | ~43–44%
2019 | 41.6%
2020 | ~37–38%
2021 | ~37%
2022 | ~34–35%
2023 | ~36%
2024 | ~37–38%
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The Voice said:
I mean, when it's 3 women per boat of 100+ men between the ages of 16-45, then it's probably correct to assume they're "all fighting age men" or that at least the majority are.
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Or men of an age where trying to move to a different country is still viable.

The article implies that the rapists are the people traffickers though, not necessarily the fellow travellers. Just thought it was worth mentioning, as social media is full of the usual narrative with these stories, and exciting tales of goats and stuff.
 
Sideshow Bob said:
I can only imagine he frantically searches every minute like "Find me all the immigrant prisoners that have reoffended. If you find muslim prisoners, I will donate 20 pounds to your cause" or something like that.

He is just cherry picking to pin it on labour. Meanwhile..check reoffending percentage since 2005.
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Ah, "Mr. Race Obsessed" has entered the chat.
 
vigras rojara said:
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Looks like news from 2019 and 2022 though so not current.. No one really goes back in time to track these. These are not pakistani muslims.

www.stokesentinel.co.uk

Sex assault reports are at a record high in Staffordshire

More than 3,200 sex attacks were reported to Staffordshire Police last year
www.stokesentinel.co.uk www.stokesentinel.co.uk
www.bbc.com

Wisteria Lodge: Three men jailed over care home abuse

Three ex-social workers are jailed for child cruelty offences at Wisteria Lodge in the 1990s.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
 
Sideshow Bob said:
Looks like news from 2019 and 2022 though so not current.. No one really goes back in time to track these. These are not pakistani muslims.

www.stokesentinel.co.uk

Sex assault reports are at a record high in Staffordshire

More than 3,200 sex attacks were reported to Staffordshire Police last year
www.stokesentinel.co.uk www.stokesentinel.co.uk
www.bbc.com

Wisteria Lodge: Three men jailed over care home abuse

Three ex-social workers are jailed for child cruelty offences at Wisteria Lodge in the 1990s.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
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Indeed, the Pakistani rape gang went back much further than this lot, so all things being equal one would have expected the protectors of "are wimminz" to be upset about these reprobates too.

Anytime now. 🤔
 
Good news everyone - a Reform Party investigation has cleared Reform Party staff involved in a Reform Party scandal!

Always thought they had done nothing wrong and so good to know that they agree that they did nothing wrong.

www.thelondoneconomic.com

Reform UK investigation decides Farage's close aides broke no law over Channel 4 sting

Reform UK has cleared itself and two close aides of Nigel Farage of any wrongdoing alleged in an undercover investigation.
www.thelondoneconomic.com www.thelondoneconomic.com

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