[USA] Ex-Cornell student sues fraternity members and college over alleged gang rape and claims several were punished with essay-writing

Cray said:
Cool, my initial gripe was that her claim was lebelled a hoax and that someone saw fit to mention her post incident communication as evidence of her having made it all up.


She never recanted her accusation and he always maintained his innocence. Assuming they didnt find evidence of violence, lack of rape kit etc., surely it is the very definition of he said/she said. Not saying that she was definitely raped just that many actual rapes are not prosecuted due to lack.of evidence.



100%, but unless there was someone else in the room when the incident occurred, it basically boils down to one version against another.


All true, but an investigative failure could also mean that, if a crime was committed, it was done in such a way as to be impossible to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.


The evidence gathered by those investigations is relevant, the fact that three bodies investigated could be an indicator that no obvious evidence was missed and tends to rule out bias but again, it might just show that this particular crine did not leave evidence that allowed fir a prosecution.


Okay, I agree.



Sure, examine it in context, but if you know a piece of evidence could exist in cases where rape occurred or did not occur, how does it influence a finding of either guilt or innocence. My objection was that people where claiming that her behaviour leans towards her having made it up.



You keep repeating that phrase but you havent shown why. If you accept that she could still be friendly with the guy even if he raped her then how is it useful in determining guilt or innocence. If that beaviour might have occurred in the case of it being a hoax or being real, what actual use is it in determing guilt?



What is the significance of the bevahiour in determining whether she was raped given that you accept that she could have done it while still being a victim of a crime.


Okay.


Your very first reply to me ...


Of all the things that you could have mentioned, the friendly texting is what you brought up in argument when i mentioned that I found the hoax label distasteful.
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Rape is when a man forcefully has sex with a woman after she said no.

The idea that a drunken drug infused gangbang is rape just doesn't work. It is not like they roofied the woman. They were all equally drunk and on drugs. If they raped her because she was too drunk to consent she also raped them because they were also too drunk to consent.

This Train Joe belongs in jail.
 
rietrot said:
Rape is when a man forcefully has sex with a woman after she said no.

The idea that a drunken drug infused gangbang is rape just doesn't work. It is not like they roofied the woman. They were all equally drunk and on drugs. If they raped her because she was too drunk to consent she also raped them because they were also too drunk to consent.
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Read back a bit, we were discussing another incident.
 
satanboy said:
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Video evidence is not normal in rape cases. You don't know the first thing.

All we needed was for her to say she said no but they held her down and did it anyway. That is rape.

Regret 3 days later is not rape.

Can we stop posting just text as if it is a meme? Surely you can just type like a normal person without turning it into a image.
 
satanboy said:
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Woman: "Let's fuk."
Guy: " Yes, please!!"
Woman's friends: "Ugh, you had sex with that guy?? He sleeps with everyone on campus/at work/in this club."
Woman: " He raped me."
Guy:"What?!?!" No i did not! Where is the proof of this?"

Whitenights, cucks and hysterical women: "Reee....reeee....reeeeee....!!!"

Guy's life is over and he even ends up in jail.

PS> Sorry I couldn't find this analogy in a cute, meme form.
 
@Cray just needs to learn that you don't trash talk about redneck meth Jesus on this thread
Apostle Rietie and the rednecks don't like it when their prophet Asmongold is not given suitable respect and worship.
@Cray will come around eventually, don't stop preaching to this heathen guys, he's a lost sheep but with enough lame jokes and digs he can crossover into the promised crack house.
 
airborne said:
@Cray just needs to learn that you don't trash talk about redneck meth Jesus on this thread
Apostle Rietie and the rednecks don't like it when their prophet Asmongold is not given suitable respect and worship.
@Cray will come around eventually, don't stop preaching to this heathen guys, he's a lost sheep but with enough lame jokes and digs he can crossover into the promised crack house.
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I don't know. I just don't find random insults funny(or offensive). For it to land it needs to be somewhat true.

You guys really need to up your game.
 
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