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Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 11
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One thing to remember Bundanov is in that negotiating team that got blind sided in the US and he is a different kettle of fish.
Take below with a pinch of salt but he did take part in special forces raids and Russia has attempted to kill him multiple times.
Take below with a pinch of salt but he did take part in special forces raids and Russia has attempted to kill him multiple times.
Witkoff and Kushner postponed the trip to Moscow due to uncertainty about the positions of Ukraine and Europe, — Axios. Trump’s representatives will not go to negotiations with Putin until they clarify whether Kyiv and European allies are ready to support a new joint peace proposal.
A small nuance: Trump’s “energy ceasefire” concerns only strikes on oil refineries, not the entire energy sector — Ukraine has only one oil refinery, and it is not operating after the strikes.
A small nuance: Trump’s “energy ceasefire” concerns only strikes on oil refineries, not the entire energy sector — Ukraine has only one oil refinery, and it is not operating after the strikes.
satanboy
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The energy ceasefire only existed in Trumps mind, like most things.
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It was backtracked on social medias to oil refineries only very quickly after the strikes.
Which is useless because Ukraine wants to protect their power stations, they only have one oil refinery (already damaged by Russia).
Grant
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hang on a second
why would they need to go into negotiations, or even clarify support.
both parties already agreed
Both sides were surprised
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Kind of hard to not see the current deal as being analogous to FDR signing trade deals with Nazi Germany in 1940 while throwing England under the bus and demanding they stop bombing German stuff. USA showing its true colours here. Astounded that the general populous is accepting of this.
Ukraine must stop striking Russia's fuel industry but Russia can continue to strike Ukraine's power and energy industry and refuse to a 60 day ceasefire and halt hostilities if Ukraine were to hold presidential elcetions.
Trump - Ukraine is the hindrance and preventing progress.
This was to be expected: the Kremlin rejected Zelensky’s proposal for a 60-day ceasefire to allow elections to be held in UkraineBut the wise geopolitical strategist Trump will, as always, blame Ukraine for everything. As the fable goes: “You are guilty simply because I want to eat.”Every time Kyiv has shown the Americans its willingness to make concessions for the sake of peace, the Kremlin has demonstratively sabotaged all agreements.Putin humiliates Trump with particular cynicism, while Trump prefers to pretend that nothing is happening. What a disgrace...
Trump - Ukraine is the hindrance and preventing progress.
This was to be expected: the Kremlin rejected Zelensky’s proposal for a 60-day ceasefire to allow elections to be held in UkraineBut the wise geopolitical strategist Trump will, as always, blame Ukraine for everything. As the fable goes: “You are guilty simply because I want to eat.”Every time Kyiv has shown the Americans its willingness to make concessions for the sake of peace, the Kremlin has demonstratively sabotaged all agreements.Putin humiliates Trump with particular cynicism, while Trump prefers to pretend that nothing is happening. What a disgrace...