US Politics: Catering to Iran

ponder said:
You just stepped into some warm horse doodoo there.
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Really? I never said that the raid was illegal (although it might turn out to be) I was commenting on how it looks when the guy in charge of Federal agencies, has publicly berated his opponent and then times a Federal raid just before an election. I know are the chief apologist for all things Trump, but do you not see how it looks in terms of abuse of power?

ponder said:
Did you object back then?
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Trump didn't hold any public office at that time so the two things are quite different.
 
Cray said:
Wait, they raided his house weeks before he was due to participate in an election, when?:eek:
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To be fair to the Trump supporters, Trump was charged in what can be legit named a move aimed at derailing his reelection ambitions by making ineligible. I think comments in that vein were made. The whataboutism has merit
 
ponder said:
He wasn't alive back then.
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Valid point. @Cray - Presuming you were alive since Clinton era, I would like to see your condemnation of all these actions of democrats. This shall help @ponder in assessing application of your membership of his elite club.

Clinton​

  1. Repealing Glass-Steagall provisions — Clinton signed legislation dismantling key separations between commercial and investment banking.
  2. Signing the 1994 crime bill's legacy into law — Clinton defended a law criticised for contributing to mass incarceration.
  3. Signing the 1996 welfare reform — Restricted access to federal cash assistance for poor families.
  4. Supporting NAFTA — Critics blamed it for accelerating job losses in some American manufacturing communities.
  5. Failing to protect manufacturing jobs — The party struggled to address the economic disruption caused by globalisation.
  6. Tough-on-crime politics — Democrats embraced punitive policies to compete with Republicans.
  7. The Lewinsky scandal — Clinton's conduct damaged public trust and distracted his administration.
  8. Campaign-finance controversies — Fundraising practices prompted investigations and ethics concerns.

George​

  1. Iraq War authorisation — Democratic senators who backed the 2002 authorisation helped enable the invasion.
  2. Slow opposition to the Iraq War — Many Democrats opposed the war only after it became deeply unpopular.
  3. The 2008 financial crisis response — Critics argue Democrats failed to anticipate the full scale of financial-system risks.
  4. Bailout politics — Democratic support for financial rescues fuelled perceptions that Wall Street received preferential treatment.
  5. Obama's broken healthcare promise — People who liked their existing insurance plans did not always get to keep them.
  6. Obamacare's rollout — The 2013 federal website launch was plagued by major technical failures.
  7. Obamacare's initial premium shocks — Some consumers faced higher premiums or deductibles.
  8. Failure to close Guantanamo Bay — Obama did not fulfil his pledge to shut the detention facility.
  9. Drone strikes — The Obama administration expanded targeted killing, including operations that caused civilian casualties.
  10. Libya intervention — The 2011 intervention helped topple Gaddafi but was followed by prolonged instability.
  11. Syria policy — Obama's failure to enforce his stated chemical-weapons red line damaged his credibility.
  12. Failure to pass comprehensive immigration reform — Obama could not deliver the broad legislative overhaul he had sought.
  13. Mass deportations under Obama — His administration deported large numbers of immigrants, alienating immigrant-rights advocates.
  14. NSA surveillance — The administration continued controversial mass-surveillance programmes exposed by Edward Snowden.
  15. Fast and Furious — A flawed federal gun-trafficking operation became a major oversight controversy.
  16. Solyndra controversy — A failed solar-energy company receiving federal support raised questions about government investment decisions.
  17. Failure to protect voting rights — Democrats struggled to secure comprehensive federal voting-rights protections.

Trump​

  1. Hillary Clinton's private email server — Her handling of government emails created a major credibility problem.
  2. Clinton's 2016 campaign strategy — Critics argue she neglected key battleground states and working-class voters.
  3. Calling Trump's supporters deplorables — The remark alienated some voters and reinforced perceptions of elitism.
  4. Russiagate overreach — Some Democrats made claims about collusion that went beyond what the investigation established.
  5. The Steele dossier controversy — Democrats and allied actors gave disputed opposition research too much attention.
  6. Defund-the-police messaging — Some Democratic politicians struggled to distance themselves from the slogan.
  7. The Green New Deal's political presentation — Ambitious proposals gave opponents material for attacks over cost and feasibility.
  8. Progressive versus moderate infighting — Internal divisions complicated legislative negotiations and election messaging.
  9. The 2020 protests and riots response — Some Democratic leaders were criticised for inconsistent responses to unrest.
  10. The Afghanistan withdrawal — Biden's 2021 withdrawal was marked by chaotic scenes and the deaths of 13 US service members.
  11. Inflation under Biden — Prices rose sharply, hurting household purchasing power and public confidence.
  12. The American Rescue Plan's size — Critics argue the 2021 stimulus contributed to inflationary pressure.
  13. The border-management crisis — The administration faced record-high encounters at the US–Mexico border during parts of its tenure.
  14. Slow response to immigration pressures — Democrats struggled to agree on effective border and asylum reforms.
  15. The student-loan forgiveness strategy — Biden's broad cancellation plan was blocked by the Supreme Court.
  16. Failure to secure a lasting bipartisan immigration deal — A 2024 Senate border proposal collapsed amid election-year political conflict.
  17. Age concerns about Biden — Democratic leaders were slow to address public concerns about his age and fitness for office.
  18. Biden's 2024 debate performance — His performance intensified concerns about his ability to campaign effectively.
  19. The late withdrawal from the 2024 race — The timing left Democrats with limited time to select and promote a replacement.
  20. Kamala Harris's 2024 campaign — She struggled to distinguish herself from an unpopular incumbent administration.
  21. The party's messaging on the economy — Democrats often failed to persuade voters that economic improvements benefited them personally.
  22. Progressive positions on immigration — Some proposals were vulnerable to criticism as insufficiently attentive to border enforcement.
  23. The Gaza war response — The party's divisions over Israel and Palestinian rights alienated parts of its coalition.
  24. Failure to pass stronger federal ethics rules — Democrats did not secure comprehensive reforms addressing concerns about political influence and conflicts of interest.
  25. Overreliance on anti-Trump messaging — Critics argue Democrats have sometimes focused more on opposing Trump than articulating a clear, unified policy agenda.
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TheMightyQuin said:
But...DID she.

We will soon see what the raid delivers.

Marrying her brother may be a tradition, but it is an illegal way to get citizenship.

PS> I am becoming a Dutch citizen next year...at a much older age. What is your point exactly re. Melania?
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The point is that you are racist.
 
Cray said:
Really? I never said that the raid was illegal (although it might turn out to be) I was commenting on how it looks when the guy in charge of Federal agencies, has publicly berated his opponent and then times a Federal raid just before an election. I know are the chief apologist for all things Trump, but do you not see how it looks in terms of abuse of power?

Trump didn't hold any public office at that time so the two things are quite different.
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It applies to all candidates, not just people already holding public office. The distinction is between the informal pre-election convention and the DOJ's formal policy.
The Justice Department's inspector general explained that the unwritten rule was understood to discourage overt investigative steps or indictments involving political candidates near elections. It was not limited to elected officials.

The relevant categories are:
- Incumbents running for re-election: covered by the convention.
- Challengers running for office: covered too, even if they currently hold no office.
- Former officials running again: covered when they are candidates.
- Politically prominent people who are not candidates: not automatically covered simply because they are politically prominent, although the broader rule against politically motivated investigative timing still applies.


I know are the chief apologist for all things Trump...
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PS I'm also a raving religious zealot according to Dave, why do this.
 
AlmightyBender said:
The point is that you are racist.
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