Biker killed, another wounded in Pretoria pub shooting

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Smugs said:
Possible..??

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Probably about 80% correct.

As for politics, international policies do not always follow that script. Yes, they may not help us as such unless to do us a favour. But if something here has an effect on them, they will be sure to make certain folks aware of it here which will be followed by an "intelligence driven operation" followed by the Hawks basking in the glory. But that has been happening for years.
 
Urist said:
"A 55-year-old biker was killed and another biker wounded in a shooting at Little Britain Pub in Waterkloof Ridge, Pretoria, yesterday evening (October 10),reports Pretoria Rekord. "

"According to preliminary police information, the victims are members of the Macs Biker Group, while the suspect is reportedly affiliated with the Crusaders Biker Group."


www.citizen.co.za

Biker killed, another wounded in Pretoria pub shooting - LNN - Network News

A man is expected to appear in the Hatfield Magistrate’s Court following a shooting that claimed the life of a biker.
www.citizen.co.za www.citizen.co.za

These okes making biking unpleasant in south africa.
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These okes ? :unsure:

Macs Biker Group
Founded in 1980 by Mannetjies Geyser and Pete McGinnis; led nationally by President Hendrik Brenkman.

Crusaders Biker Group
Includes National President Mark Groenewald, Freddy Fourie, Vice President Eddie Jacobsen, Secretary Alan Judin, Treasurer Richard Jacobsen, and Sergeant at Arms Piet Jonker
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Rickster said:
What do they fight about?

"My club is better than yours"
"You on our turf"

Pathetic.
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Or, maybe its a bit more serious, like who controls the local distribution of Meth, cocaine etc - who gets to pimp out which prostitutes, that kind of thing.

The Macs and the Crusaders aren't your typical Sunday breakfast run; let's play dress-up biker clubs - these guys are proper gangsters - and there has been serious tension brewing for some time already between them - there will be more of these incidents.
 
Just make the motorcycle clubs/gangs wear lycra - way more difficult to hide anything.

And then the Cycle Lab tossers could clog Cedar Rd on the weekends wearing full motorbike gang kit, so that people can laugh at them even more than usual.

Great success.
 
Pegging said:
This weeks owner’s response: ” Doesn’t you smaak getting shot at bru? . F off somewhere else then. “
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Cmon. A once of bar fight got bit out of control. The guilty oom will go to jail.

How is it the establishments fault if 1 person doesn't know how to behave himself?
 
vigras rojara said:
And then the Cycle Lab tossers could clog Cedar Rd on the weekends wearing full motorbike gang kit, so that people can laugh at them even more than usual.
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Roadies are now some of the bravest people in the land - far more so than bikers. You have to be to cycle on these roads.

Mate lost his brother this way last year on, you guessed it, Cedar Road - to some twat attempting to evade a road block.
 
I have never seen aggressive bikers. At least on roads. I mean revving up bikes is standard now and then..

Not sure about pubs.
 
Flanders said:
Roadies are now some of the bravest people in the land - far more so than bikers. You have to be to cycle on these roads.

Mate lost his brother this way last year on, you guessed it, Cedar Road - to some twat attempting to evade a road block.
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I'm sorry to hear that.
 
Sideshow Bob said:
I have never seen aggressive bikers. At least on roads. I mean revving up bikes is standard now and then..

Not sure about pubs.
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Unfortunately most chaps masquerading around with MAC patches have been a problem in the Pretoria -> Harties area for a long time. There are always exceptions to the rule but the MACS are well known to cause k@k.

As for the pub, it's a fun spot and have personally never had issues when we go there. I have no idea how bikers think it's okay to be boozing at pubs when it's already so bloody dangerous to ride a bike!

Either way, RIP to the chap that passed and hopefully the biker "gangs" stay away!
 
Sideshow Bob said:
I have never seen aggressive bikers. At least on roads. I mean revving up bikes is standard now and then..

Not sure about pubs.
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With the MACS and Crusaders, and a good few others as well, the MCC/Biker image is just the cover - and a way to attract lost sheep they can recruit - but thes are not just MCC - Like I said in my previous post, these are full blown organised crime cartels - and basically control the distribution of street drugs and sex trafficking in South Africa.

The top guy from MACS, Mannetjies, is escorted all over by essentially his own private militia. These are not people to be taken lightly. Niether are the Crusaders, and this tension between them has been brewing for a while already.
 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ said:
Probably about 80% correct.

As for politics, international policies do not always follow that script. Yes, they may not help us as such unless to do us a favour. But if something here has an effect on them, they will be sure to make certain folks aware of it here which will be followed by an "intelligence driven operation" followed by the Hawks basking in the glory. But that has been happening for years.
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Its 100% correct, saw a post on the Mac's facebook page, some of the Mac's are being patched in a Bandido's probate club. All the violence against Crusaders has possibly been an initiation for Bandidos so see if they can be proper outlaw. Main reason i say this is, in most of the videos their main aim is to remove or 'confiscate' the Cuts (leather vest with patch for the non bikers LOL) of the Crusaders members which in 1%er culture is the biggest form of disrespect towards another club.

I am a biker, been riding for many years, i attend day jols and rallies and breakfast runs etc and i have never seen things as bad as they currently are and i foresee things getting worse.

All i can say is hier kom groot k*k.
 
Zellephant said:
With the MACS and Crusaders, and a good few others as well, the MCC/Biker image is just the cover - and a way to attract lost sheep they can recruit - but thes are not just MCC - Like I said in my previous post, these are full blown organised crime cartels - and basically control the distribution of street drugs and sex trafficking in South Africa.

The top guy from MACS, Mannetjies, is escorted all over by essentially his own private militia. These are not people to be taken lightly. Niether are the Crusaders, and this tension between them has been brewing for a while already.
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I swear when I looked up leadership/founders of those 2 clubs, those names didn't strike me as threatening. I seem to live in a totally different (and naive) world.
 
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