Problem with the fight against solar power registration in South Africa

South Africa is not most countries with advanced policies.
It is South Africa. We do it our way

These registrations are just to build a database to start taxing people to
use the sun in future.

Registrations serves no other purpose
 
Operator said:
South Africa is not most countries with advanced policies.
It is South Africa. We do it our way

These registrations are just to build a database to start taxing people to
use the sun in future.

Registrations serves no other purpose
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Yes, registering your installation and its documented safety and compliance serves no purpose. /s
 
porchrat said:
They change your tariff plans and introduce extra fees etc.

It goes well beyond simply registering it so it's documented for safety and compliance.
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Only if you want to run parallel and reduced tariffs off-peak if you wish to run in parallel.
 
Operator said:
Registrations serves no other purpose
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Actually, Eskom needs to know how many kW of power might vanish when a cloud pops up overhead because they suddenly need to provide it in an unscheduled manner.

If that doesn't work for you, each solar install increases the local grid voltage, and can push it out of spec which causes problems with solar chargers and occasionally trips out the local grid... happens in 1st world countries as well...

Eskom needs to make sure the metering systems (grid scale) can handle potential back-feed where needed and they need to know where it may happen.

There are real engineering reasons for this, but you'd also be correct if you were to add Eskom wanted to cash cow this as well...

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My UK provider gives me around R2.50/kWh no matter when I export, daytime or battery, from 00:30 to 05:30 I pay about R1.20/kWh to buy in and charge the car and batteries up. any other time I pay around R6/kWh.
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damian24 said:
Actually, Eskom needs to know how many kW of power might vanish when a cloud pops up overhead because they suddenly need to provide it in an unscheduled manner.

If that doesn't work for you, each solar install increases the local grid voltage, and can push it out of spec which causes problems with solar chargers and occasionally trips out the local grid... happens in 1st world countries as well...

Eskom needs to make sure the metering systems (grid scale) can handle potential back-feed where needed and they need to know where it may happen.

There are real engineering reasons for this, but you'd also be correct if you were to add Eskom wanted to cash cow this as well...

D
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So how about making it worthwhile for people to register. Carrot not stick
 
Newsfeed said:
Problem with the fight against solar power registration in South Africa

South Africans pushing back against registering their rooftop solar power systems with Eskom or their municipality may be surprised to learn that most countries with advanced policies in this area require it.
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I am willing to bet no-one is surprised and already know other countries require registration. They also know that the other countries don't effectively have a single supplier of electricity that is run poorly and corrupt, that other countries have effective TOU tariff's that enable people with just batteries and inverters to make the cost worth it, that other countries have effective feed back plans and tariffs, that other countries turn around time for issues is measured in hours and not weeks or months or never. Non-compliance in South Africa has more to do with South Africans being tired of bullied in to paying and getting nothing back...
 
Neuk_ said:
I am willing to bet no-one is surprised and already know other countries require registration. They also know that the other countries don't effectively have a single supplier of electricity that is run poorly and corrupt, that other countries have effective TOU tariff's that enable people with just batteries and inverters to make the cost worth it, that other countries have effective feed back plans and tariffs, that other countries turn around time for issues is measured in hours and not weeks or months or never. Non-compliance in South Africa has more to do with South Africans being tired of bullied in to paying and getting nothing back...
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Exactly this, why must I now pay R1400pm cause I've got solar? Why can't I stay on prepaid and pay for what I use.
 
damian24 said:
Actually, Eskom needs to know how many kW of power might vanish when a cloud pops up overhead because they suddenly need to provide it in an unscheduled manner.

If that doesn't work for you, each solar install increases the local grid voltage, and can push it out of spec which causes problems with solar chargers and occasionally trips out the local grid... happens in 1st world countries as well...

Eskom needs to make sure the metering systems (grid scale) can handle potential back-feed where needed and they need to know where it may happen.

There are real engineering reasons for this, but you'd also be correct if you were to add Eskom wanted to cash cow this as well...

D
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This is South Africa. People here don't backfeed into the grid because its pointless. So why register?
 
damian24 said:
My UK provider gives me around R2.50/kWh no matter when I export, daytime or battery, from 00:30 to 05:30 I pay about R1.20/kWh to buy in and charge the car and batteries up. any other time I pay around R6/kWh.
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at least they pay you, eskom doesnt.
 
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