Open water swimmer killed by Great White Shark at Orient Beach, EL

wingnut771 said:
More people swim in rivers than the ocean? Population size of crocs vs great whites?
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No way. Far more people swim in the ocean than in rivers. Coastal populations are absolutely massive relative to inland. Not to mention the massive influx of people for tourism to those sorts of places annually.

The ocean is more than 2/3rds of the planet man.

Crocs are insanely territorial. They also actively view humans as prey. When they attack a human they do it to kill. They death roll. Unlike sharks that tend to take an exploratory bite, realise what you are, then fsck off because you're not their prey.

Again... 1000 deaths annually to crocs vs. at max 10 per year to sharks.

I'll get in the water with a shark every single time over a croc. I'm not crazy man. Fsck off with crocs.
 
porchrat said:
No way. Far more people swim in the ocean than in rivers. Coastal populations are absolutely massive relative to inland. Not to mention the massive influx of people for tourism to those sorts of places annually.

The ocean is 2/3rds of the planet man.

Crocs are insanely territorial. They also actively view humans as prey. When they attack a human they do it to kill. They death roll. Unlike sharks that tend to take an exploratory bite, realise what you are, then fsck off because you're not their prey.

Again... 1000 deaths annually to crocs vs. at max 10 per year to sharks.

I'll get in the water with a shark every single time over a croc. I'm not crazy man. Fsck off with crocs.
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More chance of a coconut killing you.
 
i do love great whites though

so sad that they have moved away from cpt cause of the 2 killer whales

but they are still around the eastern cape coast

hopefully one day get to see them ..just not so up close
 
Lupus said:
More chance of a coconut killing you.
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Even this woman that died... they got her to the shore. The shark bit her, realised she wasn't prey, and left her. It didn't take her like it does with a seal or something.

This was an accident. Not active hunting like happens with crocs.

I've been in the water with sharks before. Only once did one ever interact with me. A ragged tooth bumped me to check if I was alive once because I was floating along like a numpty on the bottom looking for shark teeth not moving. The moment I moved and it realised what I was it disappeared sharpish. I once even was in the water with a tiger shark. Other than that ragged tooth, the rest just ignored me and went on with their day.

The one and only time I ever went rafting on the Zambezi the inflatable raft we were in was attacked by a massive croc. We ended up paddling for the shore in a panic with that raft deflating around us. I will never forget how terrifying that was. That wasn't even a person in the water. It was just a raft. Croc still went for it.

I would get in the water with sharks again. I'll NEVER get in the water with a croc by choice.
 
JerryMungo said:
Whites are the only major species that we see interacting with humans, especially recreational swimmers, and they don't normally go for people. The number of swimmers and surfers daily enjoying the sea, and the number of bodies-in-the-water-hours really makes them a very low threat. There's more risk actually driving to the beach.
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The point I responded to was humans not being natural food for sharks.

I acknowledged that humans are not natural food for Great Whites. Likewise Zambezi's, but they are inclined to ''finish'' an attack because they are just aggro.

Tigers and Whitetips will actively hunt humans should the opportunity present itself and this has been documented as such. Especially Whitetips. It is not just frenzies behind the horror stories of shipwrecked sailors. Whitetips will actively shadow ships and then persist with attacks if people are in the water. Tigers are known to follow ships as well, but with less intensity that Whitetips.
 
porchrat said:
Even this woman that died... they got her to the shore. The shark bit her, realised she wasn't prey, and left her. It didn't take her like it does with a seal or something.

This was an accident. Not active hunting like happens with crocs.

I've been in the water with sharks before. Only once did one ever interact with me. A ragged tooth bumped me to check if I was alive once because I was floating along like a numpty on the bottom looking for shark teeth not moving. The moment I moved and it realised what I was it disappeared sharpish. I once even was in the water with a tiger shark. Other than that ragged tooth, the rest just ignored me and went on with their day.

The one and only time I ever went rafting on the Zambezi the inflatable raft we were in was attacked by a massive croc. We ended up paddling for the shore in a panic with that raft deflating around us. I will never forget how terrifying that was. That wasn't even a person in the water. It was just a raft. Croc still went for it.

I would get in the water with sharks again. I'll NEVER get in the water with a croc by choice.
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Next time just rub its belly.
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porchrat said:
Even this woman that died... they got her to the shore. The shark bit her, realised she wasn't prey, and left her. It didn't take her like it does with a seal or something.

This was an accident. Not active hunting like happens with crocs.

I've been in the water with sharks before. Only once did one ever interact with me. A ragged tooth bumped me to check if I was alive once because I was floating along like a numpty on the bottom looking for shark teeth not moving. The moment I moved and it realised what I was it disappeared sharpish. I once even was in the water with a tiger shark. Other than that ragged tooth, the rest just ignored me and went on with their day.

The one and only time I ever went rafting on the Zambezi the inflatable raft we were in was attacked by a massive croc. We ended up paddling for the shore in a panic with that raft deflating around us. I will never forget how terrifying that was. That wasn't even a person in the water. It was just a raft. Croc still went for it.

I would get in the water with sharks again. I'll NEVER get in the water with a croc by choice.
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Crocs and hippos are no nos, both incredibly territorial and both vicious killers. My dad was at a game farm out by the Victoria falls in the 90s, someone went to go swim by the river even though people told him he was an idiot, he got taken by a croc.
 
wingnut771 said:
Next time just rub its belly.
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lol

I've been in the water with raggies before. As far as sharks go they always seemed so slow and lazy. The one that bumped me got a big shock when I was startled by it. It did a 180 and with a single beat of that tail was gone from sight. Moved maybe 20m in what seemed to me to be instantaneous. The shockwave from that tail thrash knocked me backwards. I heard and felt it. I gained a newfound respect for them that day. Even a raggie, could fold you in an instant if it wanted to.

I don't want to be close enough to a shark to be able to try to rub its belly. If that happens in an attack I'm probably already dead.

The fact is though sharks tend to leave you alone. I once dove with hammerheads in mating season. I was below them and I could barely see the surface through them there were so many. I can't even tell you how many of them were in the water with me. Probably hundreds. Not a single one paid me any mind. They genuinely, for the most part, don't care about humans.

Sharks get a very bad rep for how little damage they actually do to people.

Crocs though... fscking hell they terrify me. You'd have to be mental to get in the water with one. Absolute killing machines.
 
thestaggy said:
The point I responded to was humans not being natural food for sharks.

I acknowledged that humans are not natural food for Great Whites. Likewise Zambezi's, but they are inclined to ''finish'' an attack because they are just aggro.

Tigers and Whitetips will actively hunt humans should the opportunity present itself and this has been documented as such. Especially Whitetips. It is not just frenzies behind the horror stories of shipwrecked sailors. Whitetips will actively shadow ships and then persist with attacks if people are in the water. Tigers are known to follow ships as well, but with less intensity that Whitetips.
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Understood and agreed. My point was that we have around 50 fatalities attributed to those two species worldwide in recorded history, it's hardly even a stat.
 
porchrat said:
lol

I've been in the water with raggies before. As far as sharks go they always seemed so slow and lazy. The one that bumped me got a big shock when I was startled by it. It did a 180 and with a single beat of that tail was gone from sight. Moved maybe 20m in what seemed to me to be instantaneous. The shockwave from that tail thrash knocked me backwards. I heard and felt it. I gained a newfound respect for them that day. Even a raggie, could fold you in an instant if it wanted to.

I don't want to be close enough to a shark to be able to try to rub its belly. If that happens in an attack I'm probably already dead.

The fact is though sharks tend to leave you alone. I once dove with hammerheads in mating season. I was below them and I could barely see the surface through them there were so many. I can't even tell you how many of them were in the water with me. Probably hundreds. Not a single one paid me any mind. They genuinely, for the most part, don't care about humans.

Sharks get a very bad rep for how little damage they actually do to people.

Crocs though... fscking hell they terrify me. You'd have to be mental to get in the water with one. Absolute killing machines.
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hippos as well are mad furkers they say
 
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