SA Politics Part 14 - The New Dawn turns to Dusk

R13... said:
He got bail for the Madlanga matter. He remains in jail over the other matters for which he is applying for bail. He will run if given bail, but let us see how the other bail decision goes.
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Yeah I see this.

Somehow I think he'll get given bail in that other matter since its merely 2 stolen cars and forged documents if I remember correctly.
 
Inertia said:
The pollsters have said that if all suburban voters who voted DA in 2016 turned out again in 2026, Zille would win a majority. So if they stop complaining and vote for Zille instead of Herman, the problem should be solved

https://twitter.com/x/status/2115483041795641810
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ASA didn't exist then. If you count their votes and the DA's it would be a majority already. It's not so much about turnout, they would need to replace the votes they lost...
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
Hope he flees. The very justice system that this commission is about must be shown their arse...
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Wouldn't this be amazing: if he flees, the judge that handed him a bail sentence, should do his time instead? Wonder how many judges would hand down seemingly crazy verdicts when their own rights are on the line eh?
What's good for thee but not for me...
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
ASA didn't exist then. If you count their votes and the DA's it would be a majority already. It's not so much about turnout, they would need to replace the votes they lost...
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One day, when DA supporters here are sober, they will admit that Zille's second coming took the party back, the momentum they had in 2016 was something to be built on not to be destroyed and start afresh just because Zille is afraid the party is slipping away from her control.
 
TheChamp said:
One day, when DA supporters here are sober, they will admit that Zille's second coming took the party back, the momentum they had in 2016 was something to be built on not to be destroyed and start afresh just because Zille is afraid the party is slipping away from her control.
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Thats a glorious hot take from Champy... are you prepped for your 2 week holiday next week boss?
 
R13... said:
ASA is to the DA as MKP is to the ANC. Taken large chunks out of the body and left them bleeding out.
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The DA will find comfort in the fact that ActionSA seems to be focusing more on black voters, so there is less chance of them eating into the white traditional DA voter base.

Still won't take the DA anywhere but Zille will be able to convince the supporters that retaining the core constituency is much more important than chasing the woke electorate.
 
TheChamp said:
The DA will find comfort in the fact that ActionSA seems to be focusing more on black voters, so there is less chance of them eating into the white traditional DA voter base.

Still won't take the DA anywhere but Zille will be able to convince the supporters that retaining the core constituency is much more important than chasing the woke electorate.
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Zille giveth. Zille taketh.
It was she who launched their campaign to win over more of the black vote with the famous kiss. She then went away, and returned like Jordan with her mind changed about winning the black vote.
 
TheChamp said:
One day, when DA supporters here are sober, they will admit that Zille's second coming took the party back, the momentum they had in 2016 was something to be built on not to be destroyed and start afresh just because Zille is afraid the party is slipping away from her control.
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Mmusi was the first DA leader to lose the DA seats, Champy. As the leader, he was ultimately held responsible for the result. Your complete inversion of history might work at your local ANC branch meeting, but not here. Also if she lost the DA support, why is she so far ahead in the JHB mayoral race? Perhaps she's not the electoral poison you claim her to be.
 
Nom Chompsky said:
Mmusi was the first DA leader to lose the DA seats, Champy. As the leader, he was ultimately held responsible for the result.
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Thankfully for Champy, the Homeless movement uses the collective non-responsibility model, so nobody is at fault for them becoming a 20% party other than the voters and turd forces.
 
ToxicBunny said:
How can I admit that when we don't have actual voting results?
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Except we do have the results, in 2016 the DA got 38% for Joburg, 43% for Tshwane, they were the largest party in Tshwane, and 34% for Ekurhuleni.

After Zille came back to fight wokeness in the party, the DA dropped to 26% in Joburg, 32% in Tshwane and 28% in Ekurhuleni.

You have to admit it, no matter how painful, your Gogo is useless and she's dragging the party down, she and that boy Hill Lewis would never be able to take the DA to the heights that Maimane and Mashaba managed.
 
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