Press release: CIAG 2026 LGE Voting Guide

[lexity]

^^ "powerful Manifesto" - belongs in Lex's oxymoron thread

Have you read the CIP's manifesto?

 

[lexity]

more interesting is the desire to establish coalition with the da - i was under the impression ff+ was the bedfellow in that regard.

This started out as the 'king-maker' strategy.

That has been their long-standing goal..... get the DA below 50%, and with CIP's target of 5% support, offer them council voting support in return for a referendum on CI.

 

[Brian_G]

more interesting is the desire to establish coalition with the da - i was under the impression ff+ was the bedfellow in that regard.

Perhaps there's more than one plan in mind, but I guess they're sticking to their guns at least.

nonetheless - i share common cause with them in seeking a reduction in da majority (locally), although our end goals may differ.

I would think the FF+ has more potential here?

Have you read the CIP's manifesto?

Probably, I've read many CI related webpages through the years.

 

[lexity]

Have you read the CIP's manifesto?

Probably, I've read many CI related webpages through the years.

So, you don't recall reading it.... yet you know it's weak? (powerful vs weak)

Or are you saying generally-speaking manifestos are routinely ignored?

 

[Brian_G]

So, you don't recall reading it.... yet you know it's weak? (powerful vs weak)

Or are you saying generally-speaking manifestos are routinely ignored?

The party remains weak.

Little left to say..

 

[capd]

There will be little shift towards CIP.

People will continue to be suspicious of why "they want to run when they're not into politics", their last failure although not their fault suggests incompetence to some, they have almost no political ground plan, the recent failure of the RP shows no potential and could end up a possible embarrassment, and there have been no recent polls to give WC-ians spine-growing material.

Maybe growth towards 25 000 now could be imagined, which is still hardly a drop in your ocean.

I think you’ll be surprised this time.

 

[Brian_G]

I think you’ll be surprised this time.

Wouldn't that be nice. Based on what?

 

[lexity]

The party remains weak.

Little left to say..

So you pivoted from "the manifesto is weak," to "the party is weak".

He clearly said 'powerful manifesto,' not 'powerful party'.

 

[Brian_G]

So you pivoted from "the manifesto is weak," to "the party is weak".

He clearly said 'powerful manifesto,' not 'powerful party'.

Oh dear... fine, let me help you again..

For it to be a powerful manifesto, it would have the ability to provide a powerful outcome.


That said, I know what you're saying is that the concept is powerful. What you all ignore though is that the people need to first strongly believe in it.

 

[lexity]

Oh dear... fine, let me help you again..

For it to be a powerful manifesto, it would have the ability to provide a powerful outcome.


That said, I know what you're saying is that the concept is powerful. What you all ignore though is that the people need to first strongly believe in it.

.... perhaps by..... reading it.....

(continues filing nails)

 

[ToxicBunny]

.... perhaps by..... reading it.....

(continues filing nails)

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You need to tell Jack to make a little AI synopsis, people don't have the time to read walls o waffle.

 

[lexity]

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You need to tell Jack to make a little AI synopsis, people don't have the time to read walls o waffle.

This is why politicians love the cheap votes.

Not only do they have carte blanche, for 5 years at a time... even what you put in your manifesto, 5 days before an election doesn't matter.

 

[Brian_G]

.... perhaps by..... reading it.....

(continues filing nails)

Lol.

IF this was a year or two ago, perhaps try this wide approach, sure.
Vote is in less than a week.

BTW, are you still not voting?


Must go (truly)

 

[ToxicBunny]

This is why politicians love the cheap votes.

Not only do they have carte blanche, for 5 years at a time... even what you put in your manifesto doesn't matter.

So Jack doesn't want cheap votes to further his aims? Seems a bit fscking stupid to me really given that the vast majority of humanity are stupid.

 

[lexity]

Lol.

IF this was a year or two ago, perhaps try this wide approach, sure.
Vote is in less than a week.

BTW, are you still not voting?


Must go (truly)

I vote with the 68%.... the deafeningly silent majority.

 

[Brian_G]

I vote with the 68%.... the deafeningly silent majority.

And how much practical political leverage does that have?

How does it help Jack for instance?

Seeya

 

[lexity]

And how much practical political leverage does that have?

How many people have you heard talking about "the 68% percenters"?

Not many I would imagine.

How many would you need to hear that stat, on the other hand, for it to make an impact?

How does it help Jack for instance?

Seeya

Jack is well aware the political strategy is only one possible route.

 

[lexity]

Only 30% vote, and 66% of those vote for the lesser evil.

 

[Brian_G]

How many people have you heard talking about "the 68% percenters"?

Not many I would imagine.

How many would you need to hear that stat, on the other hand, for it to make an impact?

Huh? "Nobody notices, but if they did it would make an impact."

Jack is well aware the political strategy is only one possible route.

So then why support him?

 

[Grant]

This started out as the 'king-maker' strategy.

That has been their long-standing goal..... get the DA below 50%, and with CIP's target of 5% support, offer them council voting support in return for a referendum on CI.

i'm aware of this however, i was under the impression ff+ was the bedfellow of choice.
it would appear to me at this juncture, ff+ will serve as a partner in an attempt the break da majority - and if and when that happens, cip will look to coalition with the da as a means to call for a referendum