Herotel ordered to open up its closed-access fibre network to Internet service providers

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Herotel ordered to open up its closed-access fibre network to Internet service providers

Herotel will, for the first time, make fibre products available on a wholesale basis to comply with an instruction from the Competition Tribunal.

 

[wingnut771]

 

[Grubscrew]

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[grant_cpt]

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Even at non black Friday pricing, they are still cheaper than much other providers

 

[wingnut771]

Even at non black Friday pricing, they are still cheaper than much other providers

Exactly. Who needs open network with other ISPs.

 

[PHeX]

It is about time.

 

[wingnut771]

It is about time.

What's the issue?

 

[Monkeyz]

I wonder if they will do this with smaller regional fibre networks as well

 

[Swa]

What's the issue?

Wondering as well. They seem to be one of the cheapest. One SP has the advantage of being able to resolve issues quicker without passing the buck. It's the standard model internationally we should be following. We are regressing.

 

[wingnut771]

Wondering as well. They seem to be one of the cheapest. One SP has the advantage of being able to resolve issues quicker without passing the buck. It's the standard model internationally we should be following. We are regressing.

Clearly there is no issue due to the radio silence.

 

[Sopbeen]

Clearly there is no issue due to the radio silence.

Why can't other ISP's offer their services on the Herotel network? If you had Telkom as a FNO - would you really use Telkom as an ISP?

We had Telkom as a upstream provider for the WISP I'm currently forced to use. It was kak. They recently switched to a better provider and the difference is pretty stark in terms of loading times and overall reliability. The quality of bandwidth is just better. Why? I don't know. Perhaps Telkom oversells?

There are a multitude of advantages when you get to choose who serves your traffic. Websquad, for instance, tweaks routes based on feedback from their customers. They can steer traffic so you can have better pings. There are a lot of ISP's that don't bother with this level of service.

 

[wingnut771]

Why can't other ISP's offer their services on the Herotel network? If you had Telkom as a FNO - would you really use Telkom as an ISP?

We had Telkom as a upstream provider for the WISP I'm currently forced to use. It was kak. They recently switched to a better provider and the difference is pretty stark in terms of loading times and overall reliability. The quality of bandwidth is just better. Why? I don't know. Perhaps Telkom oversells?

There are a multitude of advantages when you get to choose who serves your traffic. Websquad, for instance, tweaks routes based on feedback from their customers. They can steer traffic so you can have better pings. There are a lot of ISP's that don't bother with this level of service.

I already asked what the issues were. No response.

 

[FBA1994]

Another nonsensical decision by the Competition Commission. Sometimes I wonder what purpose it still serves. What's next? Checkers and Spar having to allow pakis to sell products in its stores?

You simply just don't understand anti-trust and competition laws. They regulate for a reason.

 

[wingnut771]

You simply just don't understand anti-trust and competition laws. They regulate for a reason.

Its because Herotel was bought by Vuma so they not a private company anymore.

 

[Swa]

You simply just don't understand anti-trust and competition laws. They regulate for a reason.

I do not see what this has to do with competition. If it was only possible for there to be one provider sure but anyone else can rollout and install. South Africa has simply gotten used to the Telkom model but that is not the norm for fibre. Free markets should not be regulated in how they provide their services and in fact it's anti-competitive. As someone else said how does this affect smaller networks? If everyone has to open up their networks and incur costs and lose business there is less incentive for regional networks. The Competition Commission's decisions lately make less and less sense.

 

[wingnut771]

I do not see what this has to do with competition. If it was only possible for there to be one provider sure but anyone else can rollout and install. South Africa has simply gotten used to the Telkom model but that is not the norm for fibre. Free markets should not be regulated in how they provide their services and in fact it's anti-competitive. As someone else said how does this affect smaller networks? If everyone has to open up their networks and incur costs and lose business there is less incentive for regional networks. The Competition Commission's decisions lately make less and less sense.

 

[Marcan]

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Wow, these are excellent deals, especially when these are the rates on the long run, not only for first three months or so.
Openserve is busy with rolling out fibre in this small town, but the prices on their network are much higher.

 

[wingnut771]

Wow, these are excellent deals, especially when these are the rates on the long run, not only for first three months or so.
Openserve is busy with rolling out fibre in this small town, but the prices on their network are much higher.

Makes me wish I stayed in a rural town. I wonder how long the cheap prices will last now that vuma has bought them out and competition commission forced the network open access.