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no it is a statement of fact, panicking serves no purpose in any emergency, least of all for a pilot
there's literal tons of instruction manuals and if you find a single one that recommends panicking during an emergency I'll give you all of my worldly wealth
We got a live one folks
mind you I think there is a voice recording of the Russian airliner that got taken out by another plane because Switzerland or some European airspace's ATC was asleep or something, it was not exactly ice in the veins calm, lots of cursing and shoutingHey, Aeroflot doesn't count - crashing was routine for them and nothing to panic about. Vodka helped with that anyway.
as opposed to your highly astute pearl clutching like a bitch
nope he was not on the plane
indeed, but no, feelings matter moreBest examples I know of the difference between calm & panic on the flight deck - and the very different outcomes of both - were these two incidents... the former where Aviate, Navigate & Communicate WERE implemented - and the latter, where chaos & confusion overrode basic flying skills, logic & common sense...
United Airlines Flight 232
The Crew's Response
Faced with an unprecedented scenario that simulator pilots could not replicate, the cockpit crew mounted a desperate battle for survival using an experimental technique: [1]
- Asymmetric Thrust: Captain Alfred Haynes and First Officer William Records discovered they could crudely steer and counteract violent oscillations by manually adjusting the throttles of the two remaining wing engines. [1]
- Crucial Assistance: Dennis Fitch, an off-duty United Airlines DC-10 training instructor who was on board as a passenger, came forward to help. He knelt on the cockpit floor and manually operated the throttles, freeing up the captain and first officer to wrestle with the yoke. [1, 2]
- Resource Management: The disaster became the global gold standard for Crew Resource Management (CRM), showcasing how effective communication and teamwork under extreme stress can save lives.
United Airlines Flight 232 - Wikipedia
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Air France Flight 447
What Happened
Legal and Safety Aftermath
- The Route: The Airbus A330-203 departed Rio de Janeiro–Galeão International Airport bound for Paris Charles de Gaulle Airport. [1]
- The Disappearance: The aircraft flew through a high-altitude thunderstorm and the Pitot Probes (airspeed sensors) iced over and became blocked. [1, 2]
- The Crash: The autopilot disconnected, and conflicting pilot inputs led the plane into a high-altitude aerodynamic stall from which they could not recover. It plunged into the ocean within roughly four minutes. [1, 2, 3, 4]
- Investigation: France's Bureau of Enquiry and Analysis for Civil Aviation Safety (BEA) concluded that frozen airspeed sensors, confusing flight director alerts, and inadequate pilot training for high-altitude stalls caused the disaster. [1, 2]
- Criminal Trial: After years of legal proceedings and an initial lower-court acquittal in 2023, a Paris appellate court on May 21, 2026, found both Air France and Airbus guilty of corporate manslaughter, sentencing each company to pay the maximum fine of €225,000 (~$261,000). [1, 2, 3]
- Industry Changes: Global aviation standards updated pilot manual-handling training procedures for sensor failures, and airlines replaced the faulty pitot tubes.
Air France Flight 447 - Wikipedia
if one person states undeniable fact and the other starts name calling I sure know who I find more convincing
You still have not pointed out what she did wrong. Did She freeze, did she try to escape, jump out of the plane, what ?
Why is going to your death quietly without expression "better" than expressing/verbalising your horror at your certain death, why is one way better than the other?indeed, but no, feelings matter more
it's human to panic, any hint that there are better ways to deal with life or death situations is apparently insensitive
I never said she did anything wrong, that's all on you and the rest of the soy boys in this thread
Are you like cosmik debris or some sht. Are you also an astronaut and nuclear physicist?
And here I was thinking you were going to say she screamed like a little girl.
multiple reasons:
no I managed to make it through two Trump election victories without losing too much sleep
Yet in her panic she still had time to clearly communicate with ATC, not once did I hear ATC ask her to repeat what she said as it was unclear.
Then a word of advice. You don't know it all. You have never been in that situation and you have no idea how you would have reacted
