South Africa wants to punish drivers with a penalty point system it has no proof will work

unless the fines are tied to an automated system that immediately pings your phone with a fine for you pay within 30 days or what ever and the points get added immediately and this is followed up by very strict enforcement, this will never work here and it'll just be the middle class who will suffer. gary from down the road will have his license suspended because he collected 12 points and will not be able to drive and will obey the law meanwhile a taxi driver who could collect 12 points in the space of an hour will not give a flying crack about it and will continue to drive around the city like nothing is wrong.
 
And there's a loophole in the system for those of us who have corporate fleets. We just designate a certain person in the company as the "Company Representative", and then direct ALL the fines that we receive to that person. That person doesn't even have to have a driver's licence or be able to drive. They're just the representative. On the AARTO system they will send all the demerits for ALL the vehicles in that fleet to that company representative. Meanwhile the rest of us get to drive in peace.
 
LazyLion said:
And there's a loophole in the system for those of us who have corporate fleets. We just designate a certain person in the company as the "Company Representative", and then direct ALL the fines that we receive to that person. That person doesn't even have to have a driver's licence or be able to drive. They're just the representative. On the AARTO system they will send all the demerits for ALL the vehicles in that fleet to that company representative. Meanwhile the rest of us get to drive in peace.
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That's the astonishing part. Fines should be against an individual in their personal capacity but we know the cops are never on the road to do that.
 
It might have made sense 28 years ago, when things still worked. Right now JHB doesn't even have a post office.
 
Swa said:
That's the astonishing part. Fines should be against an individual in their personal capacity but we know the cops are never on the road to do that.
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Yup welcome to AARTO
 
LazyLion said:
And there's a loophole in the system for those of us who have corporate fleets. We just designate a certain person in the company as the "Company Representative", and then direct ALL the fines that we receive to that person. That person doesn't even have to have a driver's licence or be able to drive. They're just the representative. On the AARTO system they will send all the demerits for ALL the vehicles in that fleet to that company representative. Meanwhile the rest of us get to drive in peace.
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But you see when they do get a license they will uhmm have the points.
 
Well of course not, as usual they have been given a European system to roll out and test and have been given loans by the EU to do so. The government pretends it is competent and is rolling out the first world for us, in reality it is just a sandbox for first world countries to test their own ideas in.
 
How many taxi drivers actually have licenses and how will they enforce the suspension? Get that right and I will support the system, but until then ...
 
Al P said:
How many taxi drivers actually have licenses and how will they enforce the suspension? Get that right and I will support the system, but until then ...
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how many drivers actually have earned licenses?
 
wingnut771 said:
They should make AI administer the license tests.
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Last report I saw put the fail rate at over 70%, so the PC test is doing its job. The problem of course remains that very few test centers seem to have been digitalized so manual testing is still a massive loophole in the system. Add dodgy staff and the system collapses before it even starts.
 
Bad Ballie said:
Last report I saw put the fail rate at over 70%, so the PC test is doing its job. The problem of course remains that very few test centers seem to have been digitalized so manual testing is still a massive loophole in the system. Add dodgy staff and the system collapses before it even starts.
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How do you know they not failing them even if they pass so they can sell the license after the 4th attempt because they are desperate then what happens is people get with the program and then everyone just avoids the hassle and buys it without the test.
 
Al P said:
How many taxi drivers actually have licenses and how will they enforce the suspension? Get that right and I will support the system, but until then ...
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Surprisingly taxi drivers are very compliant with licenses and permits. Issue I have is how people get their licenses and the system behind it.
 
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