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Sideshow Bob said:
Is Beaumont coming up with some fake stories now or was this divulged at that time ? Maybe he can apply for a journalist somewhere..
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I think he's actually right in so much as the DA rejected the PA getting those portfolios (i vaguely seem to remember something like that at the time), and rightfully so (even though it cost them the mayorship), we all know Gayton was only after the cheese.
 
ToxicBunny said:
I've seen a number of parties play this game, and I think it honestly shouldn't be allowed.

As a person you can stand as a Ward councillor in only 1 Ward, and i also think it must be the ward you are resident in.
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Of course this should not be applicable to Mayors, right ?
 
TheChamp said:
I don't think I would agree with that, because it seeks to say Cyril had no ambition or vision for the country, he simply wanted to be President because Mbeki was President.

Both guys have their history and record in politics, Mbeki coming from the Academic/scholar side of ANC politics and Ramaphosa from the Labour/working clad persuasion, there is no reason why both could not have their own vision of what they wanted to do as leaders of the country.

The notion that just because he went into business, he wasn't supposed to ever come back to politics is just silly.
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I am not diminishing their separate histories and records.

I know someone who was in the room when the fists fell many years ago. Ramaphosa thought/hoped he would be Madiba's successor, and when it turned out differently, he was not happy.
 
Sideshow Bob said:
It seems he was right though. I am surprised but it looks like ActionSA was up to some mischief behind this move.

www.timeslive.co.za

ActionSA insists DA is behind collapse of Mpho Phalatse-led Joburg coalition

ActionSA national chairperson Michael Beaumont is adamant the DA must carry the blame for “handing Johannesburg to the ANC”.
www.timeslive.co.za www.timeslive.co.za

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Ask yourself why the Freedom Front would be scheming in the background with ActionSA against the DA? They share voters with the DA and it woukd never look good if they were to scheme with Mashaba to kick the DA out.

Mulder is also on record saying the DA was the biggest stumbling block in the coalition, again, if you guys are prepared to accept that Mashaba was the problem, what benefit would a party like the Freedom Front have to lie and say the DA was a problem?
 
TheChamp said:
Ask yourself why the Freedom Front would be scheming in the background with ActionSA against the DA? They share voters with the DA and it woukd never look good if they were to scheme with Mashaba to kick the DA out.

Mulder is also on record saying the DA was the biggest stumbling block in the coalition, again, if you guys are prepared to accept that Mashaba was the problem, what benefit would a party like the Freedom Front have to lie and say the DA was a problem?
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I don't think that's what it says. I read it as ASA was scheming to seize power, and planned to work with the IFP and VF+...
 
TheChamp said:
Ask yourself why the Freedom Front would be scheming in the background with ActionSA against the DA? They share voters with the DA and it woukd never look good if they were to scheme with Mashaba to kick the DA out.

Mulder is also on record saying the DA was the biggest stumbling block in the coalition, again, if you guys are prepared to accept that Mashaba was the problem, what benefit would a party like the Freedom Front have to lie and say the DA was a problem?
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What we do know 100% sure is that the ASA wanted to reward the backstabbing PA.
 
wingnut771 said:
The one who doesn't like Cyril, you know, the topic of discussion in your post I replied to.
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You post could have meant Mbeki or Ramaphosa, so don't try to be cute with me.

There is no RET factor, Mbeki just hate Cyril because Cyril managed to to what Mbeki, with all his high IQ and qualifications failed to do against a primary school drop out, Ramaphosa outsmarted Zuma, not once but twice, that annoys Mbeki greatly because he has always thought of Cyril as a being way beneath him.
 
TheChamp said:
You post could have meant Mbeki or Ramaphosa, so don't try to be cute with me.

There is no RET factor, Mbeki just hate Cyril because Cyril managed to to what Mbeki, with all his high IQ and qualifications failed to do against a primary school drop out, Ramaphosa outsmarted Zuma, not once but twice, that annoys Mbeki greatly because he has always thought of Cyril as a being way beneath him.
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Except Ramaposer outsmarted fokoli. He just sat and waited the time out
 
TheChamp said:
You post could have meant Mbeki or Ramaphosa, so don't try to be cute with me.

There is no RET factor, Mbeki just hate Cyril because Cyril managed to to what Mbeki, with all his high IQ and qualifications failed to do against a primary school drop out, Ramaphosa outsmarted Zuma, not once but twice, that annoys Mbeki greatly because he has always thought of Cyril as a being way beneath him.
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Never knew Cyril could be RET.
 
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