Kalvaer
Expert Member
I think we still have a few million years to go before that happens, So hopefully by then we would of perfected inter-galactic travel and planet terraforming
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Global Warming Scam Exposed?
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Hehe
. Apparently that was an imposter, here is the real action 
.[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGdbHW9Nlds[/ame]
And a few interesting points:
Missing the Main Arguments
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Fazda
Honorary Master
ClimateGate? Hardly
The news media has been reporting on something they are calling “ClimateGate” — some internal emails from the Climatic Research Unit in England that were hacked and leaked. Some climate change skeptics are claiming that these emails prove that climate change is bogus.
Hardly. I’ve looked into the emails and the code, and there just isn’t any there there. No smoking gun. As a computer scientist who has worked extensively with simulations, I can say that it is common practice to play around with data to test out different scenarios, but the key point here is that none of the fudged data was ever published as real data. None.
But what is really hypocritical is that back in 2007, a likewise leaked internal document revealed that ExxonMobil was spending $16 million on an extensive PR campaign to confuse the public on global warming science. To do this, they employed some of the same organizations and people who had spent 40 years helping the tobacco companies sow doubt about whether their product caused lung cancer. One of the things they had done was to “recruit and train a team of five independent scientists to participate in media outreach”. If they are recruited and trained by the oil company, how can they be independent?
So on one hand, you have a large corporation spending millions of dollars to spread lies about climate change. On the other hand, you have some internal emails from some scientists playing with their data, even though this data was never actually published. So, which story does the mainstream media jump on? Guess.
http://politicalirony.com/2009/12/05/climategate-hardly/
The news media has been reporting on something they are calling “ClimateGate” — some internal emails from the Climatic Research Unit in England that were hacked and leaked. Some climate change skeptics are claiming that these emails prove that climate change is bogus.
Hardly. I’ve looked into the emails and the code, and there just isn’t any there there. No smoking gun. As a computer scientist who has worked extensively with simulations, I can say that it is common practice to play around with data to test out different scenarios, but the key point here is that none of the fudged data was ever published as real data. None.
But what is really hypocritical is that back in 2007, a likewise leaked internal document revealed that ExxonMobil was spending $16 million on an extensive PR campaign to confuse the public on global warming science. To do this, they employed some of the same organizations and people who had spent 40 years helping the tobacco companies sow doubt about whether their product caused lung cancer. One of the things they had done was to “recruit and train a team of five independent scientists to participate in media outreach”. If they are recruited and trained by the oil company, how can they be independent?
So on one hand, you have a large corporation spending millions of dollars to spread lies about climate change. On the other hand, you have some internal emails from some scientists playing with their data, even though this data was never actually published. So, which story does the mainstream media jump on? Guess.
http://politicalirony.com/2009/12/05/climategate-hardly/
Kalvaer
Expert Member
Hmmm Please PM me your details, so I at least know NEVER to use you for an real work simulations we ever need done.. K thanks bye..
lol yeah, I know Fazda IRL. That bit about him being a computer scientist had me scratching my head until I clicked the link.
Jenemesis
Senior Member
Wind is worst fear of supposed "global warming"
some biblical prophesies that may be of interest:
in simple terms, if there is any sudden rise in temperature, the air rises and cooler air will rush in underneath, everyone knows that, so the results of this "warming" is not necessrily the melting of ice caps and so on, it is obviously the prophesy of serious wind, wind, wind and more wind.
"and I heard a trumpet and an angel was released to cause wind to torment the earth"
there will be red tide and other things too but definately serious winds!
some biblical prophesies that may be of interest:
in simple terms, if there is any sudden rise in temperature, the air rises and cooler air will rush in underneath, everyone knows that, so the results of this "warming" is not necessrily the melting of ice caps and so on, it is obviously the prophesy of serious wind, wind, wind and more wind.
"and I heard a trumpet and an angel was released to cause wind to torment the earth"
there will be red tide and other things too but definately serious winds!
MacNutter
Well-Known Member
And you know this how? Are you in charge of God's diet? What makes YOU the expert on God's intestinal gas?
Jenemesis
Senior Member
it seems pretty obvious:
any sudden rising of temperature causes the air to move upward and cooler air to rush in, so the prephesy of wind is eminent, the results of heat waves will cause serious wind, and this is a fact that is ignored by the "scientists" because they are afraid of confirming biblical prophesies, they'd rather the sea rose a few meters than admit the obvious
insults in lieu of debate is indicative of "hitting-a-nerve"
any sudden rising of temperature causes the air to move upward and cooler air to rush in, so the prephesy of wind is eminent, the results of heat waves will cause serious wind, and this is a fact that is ignored by the "scientists" because they are afraid of confirming biblical prophesies, they'd rather the sea rose a few meters than admit the obvious
insults in lieu of debate is indicative of "hitting-a-nerve"
Jenemesis
Senior Member
the world will not die form wind, MacNutter, it will be tormented by wind, like it is tormented with desease and poverty and inflation and environemental decay, so any "glabal warming" wont melt caps, it will cause wind!
There is a lot of observed melting of ice going on, so I think your hypothesis is wrong from the outset.
Kalvaer
Expert Member
Ok, why did this conversation have to go like its.. I guess I'm outta here