Intel admits dual-core P4 was rushed

[killadoob]

but why would i want to be doing that during bf2?

im happy with my 3000+

just wish i had 4000 for a new vga card my 6600 is good but not as good as say a 6800 ultra would be

 

[Toxin]

Give it a month or so. The 7800 cards will cause the 6800 cards to drop in price, a lot.

Yeah, I'm waiting till October to buy a new G-card.

 

[stoke]

/me has earmarked a LeadTech 6800GT for my christmas present.
/me thinks mebbe me should get me christmas shopping done early - eyes credit card - slaps face - NO !

 

[rburley]

angellus dont U hav a amd athlon64 4000?

 

[Nom Chompsky]

angellus dont U hav a amd athlon64 4000?

Your point is....?

 

[desraid]

i'm waiting till 2008 to buy my Athlon128.

 

[rburley]

Yes I do have a 4000+. Why do you ask?

tell stoke that your AMD will kill his POS intel.

 

[rburley]

i'm waiting till 2008 to buy my Athlon128.

serious????

 

[Perdition]

Perdition, I only have Tomshardware here. Do you have links to comparisons done by other sites?

No need, the Athlon64 x2 easily beats the Pentium D in most games. The topic of discussion was next generation dual core architecture and I think the playing field will even out if Intel integrate Pentium M technology into their dual cores. If you've seen the articles on gaming performance on the Pentium M (specifically higher clocked Pentium M's) you'll see they have no problem beating Athlon64's... AMD need to stay on their toes.

 

[Fiveby5]

No need, the Athlon64 x2 easily beats the Pentium D in most games. The topic of discussion was next generation dual core architecture and I think the playing field will even out if Intel integrate Pentium M technology into their dual cores. If you've seen the articles on gaming performance on the Pentium M (specifically higher clocked Pentium M's) you'll see they have no problem beating Athlon64's... AMD need to stay on their toes.

Games don't support multi threading so the dual core makes zero difference. The reason AMD X2 cpu's beat intel is beacause the AMD's run as fast as the fastest normal cpu's. The intels run slower. The X2 4800+ for example runs two 2.4Ghz cores with 1MB L2 cache. That is 2 4000+ cpu's. Things like 3D rendering speed up a huge amount but games don't benefit.

 

[Perdition]

Games don't support multi threading so the dual core makes zero difference. The reason AMD X2 cpu's beat intel is beacause the AMD's run as fast as the fastest normal cpu's. The intels run slower. The X2 4800+ for example runs two 2.4Ghz cores with 1MB L2 cache. That is 2 4000+ cpu's. Things like 3D rendering speed up a huge amount but games don't benefit.

Er yes I know this but I didn't go into detail for the sake of brevity and to get to my main point. I was only stating which dual core CPU is faster in games, not whether you actually need it.

Besides if you really want to get to the nitty gritty of it dual cores do slightly benefit games as OS overhead (i.e. services running in the background) is mitigated with the second core. Whether you actually notice the difference is another debate.

 

[Bjorn]

Angellus, from what i have read the pentium M is based on the old P3 architecture, could be wrong tho

 

[MaD]

just wish i had 4000 for a new vga card my 6600 is good but not as good as say a 6800 ultra would be

Rather save some moneh and get a vanilla 6800 and softmod it to a 6800GT.. got a 6800 last week and klapping just over 62,000 in Aquamark.. not too bad, but going to try for 65,000..

 

[Toxin]

But where can you get the Pentium M CPU as is? What I'd really like to do is buy the CPU only and put it in an ASUS shuttle with the ASUS Pentium M converter http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=3&l2=54&l3=0&model=467&modelmenu=1 (used to put a Pentium M on a normal Pentium motherboard). Since it runs so cool it'll work perfectly in the shuttle.

 

[Darth Garth]

Angellus, from what i have read the pentium M is based on the old P3 architecture, could be wrong tho

It is based on the old granddaddy Pentuim Pro architecture (the PII and P3 are mere variants of it) but with a P4 bus interface.

 

[Crash]

The X2 Cpu's seems a bit more expensive at the moment though. The Intel Dual Core is not that much more expensive than a single core. About 20% more expensive.
But it gets a bit tough, cause the slowest X2 is a 3800+ 8), So if you have a Dual Core 3.8 Ghz P4 (Besides having to cool it with Liquid Nitrogen ), I think you would find the AMD much cheaper.

The whole changing the socket to support Dual Core for Intel, was a balls up. Man that ragged me off. As you can probably tell, I own an Intel "Stove Plate".

I think AMD is the better choice for gamers, but Intel still owns the Server Market.

 

[Fiveby5]

I heard this aswel but the Pentium M is similar to the Athlon in the sense that it does not run really high Ghz but rather more operations per cycle.

Maybe you're thinking of the Centrinos? the newer mobile chips? I don't think Intel mobiles are actually called Pentium M chips anymore or have been for a long time.