Is a GPON really necessary?

Big Destroyer said:
Simplifying the network by preventing additional hardware that can be eliminated, otherwise there is no other goal
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Don't know about the other FNO's, but at least with Openserve, the ONT that they provide is registered on their network and it has to go through that. Using any other device will be detected as a rogue ONT and immediately kicked out by their system.

So yeah, unlikely you will find a workaround.
 
Big Destroyer said:
Simplifying the network by preventing additional hardware that can be eliminated, otherwise there is no other goal
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I don't think there is any disadvantage though except for maybe having to use an extra device to do all routing.

The operators keeps the ONT and CPE locked as they use that to control the line.

Some operators like Aeonova360 the ONT is the end point and you get limited access to the ONT to change the wofi name ect but DNS and other related settings you need to call them to change it so was not ideal.

Openserve also uses the ONT to be able to provide multiple lines on the same ONT by creating multiple vlans so each network port can be used as a fibre line. This feature will likely not be available if you used your own device.
 
With VumaReach, I have full access to my ONT weirdly, if I suddenly become an idiot one day I could change ONT auth setting, change the transmit optical power and other things. Vumatel puts a lot of trust in their reach clients.
 
Jaseyyxx said:
With VumaReach, I have full access to my ONT weirdly, if I suddenly become an idiot one day I could change ONT auth setting, change the transmit optical power and other things. Vumatel puts a lot of trust in their reach clients.
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How does one access it? Whats the gateway IP?
 
You can not remove the ONT from the equation at all. Operators use its MAC address and FSAN to identify the service. The ONT is configured specifically to connect you to your ISP's VLAN on the fibre providers side.
 
MavChat said:
You can not remove the ONT from the equation at all. Operators use its MAC address and FSAN to identify the service. The ONT is configured specifically to connect you to your ISP's VLAN on the fibre providers side.
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The ONT is a vital part of the fttx system deployed.
What is not correct is that the current way in which operators are deploying the technology is the only way to do it.
Yes there are parts of the configuration that are very system specific but that does not mean that other parts of the configuration cannot be made available to end users.
It is more than feasible for the add on router currently deployed to be eliminated by providing customer access to the ONT configuration.
 
Geoff.D said:
The ONT is a vital part of the fttx system deployed.
What is not correct is that the current way in which operators are deploying the technology is the only way to do it.
Yes there are parts of the configuration that are very system specific but that does not mean that other parts of the configuration cannot be made available to end users.
It is more than feasible for the add on router currently deployed to be eliminated by providing customer access to the ONT configuration.
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Knowing users, they will mess it up and cause a huge influx of support requests because their lines are down and "they don't know why" when they messed it up. Locking access to configuration is the solution to users with itchy fingers.
 
MavChat said:
Knowing users, they will mess it up and cause a huge influx of support requests because their lines are down and "they don't know why" when they messed it up. Locking access to configuration is the solution to users with itchy fingers.
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Ja sure, that is the line the FNOs are going to take. Does not completely justify their actions though.
 
Geoff.D said:
Ja sure, that is the line the FNOs are going to take. Does not completely justify their actions though.
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Why do you need access to the ONT's settings to begin with? It's like the label on your electronic equipment saying "no user serviceable parts inside"

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The ONT is the property of the FNO, not the user, so they are well within their rights to restrict access to their equipment.
 
Ja like the Xmas lights I have just "repaired" Has the same label on it, yet it was faulty out of the box.

The choice was fix, and keep the kids of all ages happy next door, or wait for next year. -------

Us ordinary okes buy Xmas lights that are simple. Then there are those that go and get IoT lights controlled via wi-fi from an App on their phones ........
 
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MavChat said:
Why do you need access to the ONT's settings to begin with? It's like the label on your electronic equipment saying "no user serviceable parts inside"

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The ONT is the property of the FNO, not the user, so they are well within their rights to restrict access to their equipment.
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Nah they need this sticker.

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