Scientists Worry Machines May Outsmart Man

"So according to this article computers could theoretically become self-aware by 2029; based on the rate of development of processing power, computers should possess the same level of complexity as the human brain"

Probably much sooner. Just like Alexander Bell once said: "One day, every major city in the world will have a telephone!"
 
Doesn't I.Robot ring a bell to anybody? EXactly what you talking about is the same as the movie :?

The rules... all from the movie.. robots "thinking" .. from the movie.. people creating bad robots... from the movie? Am i missing something?
 
poffle said:
Doesn't I.Robot ring a bell to anybody? EXactly what you talking about is the same as the movie :?

The rules... all from the movie.. robots "thinking" .. from the movie.. people creating bad robots... from the movie? Am i missing something?
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Erm, as well it should... I, Robot was an adaptation of Isaac Asimov's works, who also formulated the three rules. As an aside, I believe Bicentennial Man (horrid movie starring Robin Williams) was also adapted from a story of his.
 
enigma243 said:
Erm, as well it should... I, Robot was an adaptation of Isaac Asimov's works, who also formulated the three rules. As an aside, I believe Bicentennial Man (horrid movie starring Robin Williams) was also adapted from a story of his.
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Ah okay, thanks for clearing that up for me :)
 
battletoad said:
Focusing only on the killing bit, always wondered if the 3 laws of robotics would do the trick:
1. Robots would not, thru action or inaction, let harm befall a human
2. Do wateva a human tells them, unless it contravenes the 1st rule
3. Protect its own existance unless it contradicts the first 2 rules.
These rules could be written to some sort of eeprom. Obviously there are some rough edges to iron out but at least its a step towards a workable solution. What u guys think?
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The problem is that humans are a danger unto themselves/ourselves. So if a machine determined that man was ultimately heading towards annihilation, whether it be immediate or distant (ie: global warming), it could believe that conditions to rule one were met, and would not listen to humans' requests to stop because that would break rule 1. So it would try and stop humans from heading towards that state by whatever action it seems fit, provided it doesn't break the three rules. Something like iRobot. Maybe. :rolleyes:
 
Or the fact that in order for any being (even a computer) to be self aware and able to think for itself, it would not be forced to abide by any rules...
 
battletoad said:
Focusing only on the killing bit, always wondered if the 3 laws of robotics would do the trick:
1. Robots would not, thru action or inaction, let harm befall a human
2. Do wateva a human tells them, unless it contravenes the 1st rule
3. Protect its own existance unless it contradicts the first 2 rules.
These rules could be written to some sort of eeprom. Obviously there are some rough edges to iron out but at least its a step towards a workable solution. What u guys think?

There'l always be a dr no, but i'd be more weary of some guy flashing his bot's safety instructions just so that it can do more stuff
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I don't think Science Fiction rules from a novel should not be put into effect in real life
 
I think you are wrong. I think if we ever have intelligent robots, the Good Doctor's Laws would be exaclty what would be needed and necessary. Else, Skynet. :)a
 
DJ... said:
Or the fact that in order for any being (even a computer) to be self aware and able to think for itself, it would not be forced to abide by any rules...
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That is a lie. We could do the same with humans it would just not be "humane".
 
Devill said:
That is a lie. We could do the same with humans it would just not be "humane".
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How would we do so with computers? Or even humans for that matter? You cannot stop them from thinking such thoughts if they are intelligent enough to think for themselves. You can try to prevent them taking action, but if they're persistent enough, they'll find a way to inflict damage. We cannot programme them not to think of specific thoughts if we expect them to think for themselves. It'd be just like raising a child - you can say "naughty robot" all you like, but if the fscker wants to kick you, he'll kick you. While we can manipulate humans to have specific hair colour, eye colour and other physical attributes, we can't manipulate their specific thoughts as they grow older...
 
battletoad said:
Focusing only on the killing bit, always wondered if the 3 laws of robotics would do the trick:
1. Robots would not, thru action or inaction, let harm befall a human
2. Do wateva a human tells them, unless it contravenes the 1st rule
3. Protect its own existance unless it contradicts the first 2 rules.
These rules could be written to some sort of eeprom. Obviously there are some rough edges to iron out but at least its a step towards a workable solution. What u guys think?

There'l always be a dr no, but i'd be more weary of some guy flashing his bot's safety instructions just so that it can do more stuff
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Isaac Asimov thought-up the laws and made a career of writing stories where they were broken. They look ‘bulletproof’ but they’re not.
 
DJ... said:
How would we do so with computers? Or even humans for that matter? You cannot stop them from thinking such thoughts if they are intelligent enough to think for themselves. You can try to prevent them taking action, but if they're persistent enough, they'll find a way to inflict damage. We cannot programme them not to think of specific thoughts if we expect them to think for themselves. It'd be just like raising a child - you can say "naughty robot" all you like, but if the fscker wants to kick you, he'll kick you. While we can manipulate humans to have specific hair colour, eye colour and other physical attributes, we can't manipulate their specific thoughts as they grow older...
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Easy. Implant "mind reader chip" (o come on by the time "Machines Men" are there these chips will be old news:p) and if the chip detects the thoughts the human dies. :)

Simple well that or a Minority report type of arrest before the crime has been done :D

**Ps this post was said in a joking manner please read it with a slight lightness of heart
 
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