Taking the wireless a step further...

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Hi,

Theoreticly, not that I'm conspiring to commit a crime, but rather trying to be informed on how not to commit it ...
I was wondering what would be the cheapest solution for a 50m maybe less or more connection between 2 pc's (wireless ofcourse). And possibly a good solution for a machine running freebsd p1 with no usb (gateway).

Any sugestions on where to start?

to connect 2 machines, would I need just 2 wireless network cards ? if so what types? What other suggestions.

And what about maybe connecting 3 or 4 pc's together?
Is that then where getting a wireless hib is needed?

Any idea's on prices and area's to get would be appreciated :)
 
Apparently, although I'm yet to see this work, you can actually connect two pcs with 2 cards and no Access Point. However, its (in laymans terms) a bit like normal networking where the switch is replace by the access point. The AP can also handle more connections than a switch.

Pricing.. well depending on who you speak to:
11Mbps PCI WLAN cards R250-R600
54Mbps PCI WLAN cards R450-R900
11Mbps AP R850-R1300
54Mbps AP R950-R2500

These are approximate prices and with some research and feedback maybe we can get cheaper stuff [:)]

For the PC, get a USB PCI card (<R150) or get the PPPoE cable (<R200). Then use the Linux drivers available on the forum here or use PPPoE. I'm not the expert on this.. speak to the pros [:D]
 
You only need 2 wireless network cards to make it work in Ad-Hoc (peer-to-peer) mode.
There are drivers which can make a Prism and Agere based wireless cards act like an access point (hostap and hermesap for linux)

The standard orinoco drivers can be set to AP mode by changing a setting in the registry.

But if you're only connecting 2 PCs, then Ad-Hoc mode is good enough.

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PPoE no problem, Ive been dialing out of my box since day 1. It's the usb connection which the drivers are for :).

Do you know anything for support of drivers?
Do these wireless pci cards work like normal cards?
Would freebsd be able to use it ? :)

Thanx

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Ok, on http://www.computersonly.co.za/template.asp?category=18
They have some products.

I'm thinking access point so later I have my wireless lan for laptop or whatever, so I kinda save money... so thinking

Dlink. DWL2000 Wireless (Acces Point) - R1499
Dlink. DWL500 Wireless (Adapter) - R455

Now I cant seem to get the following answer anywhere.
Does this access point connect to my freebsd machine (gateway) through a network cable then ? And all nodes on the access point would be able to use my internet connection ? Basicly use gateway?
 
When using the PCI cards as APs.. does this cause any kind of strain ie. CPU usage. Also does this lower speed significantly?

Can this be done with specifically 54Mbps and a maximum of 4 PCI card network (WLAN) with no APs? What would this cost per card..

Quotes anyone.. email me [:D]
 
One more legal question...

I live in a town house (complex).
It's the complex (every town house) is owned by one person.
The complex is registered under one address.

Does this mean setting up a wireles lan in the complex is legal ?
 
from what i've read about the legalities about this, no, only if the signal crosses public roads (yea, stupid i know)

thats how big companies have their wireless installed, on one premises (sometimes bigger than a complex) with one address

go for it dude
 
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by greedyflyza</i>
<br />When using the PCI cards as APs.. does this cause any kind of strain ie. CPU usage. Also does this lower speed significantly?

Can this be done with specifically 54Mbps and a maximum of 4 PCI card network (WLAN) with no APs? What would this cost per card..

Quotes anyone.. email me [:D]
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Yes, PrismGT is the 54mbps version (802.11g) of the Prism chipset. There's also driver for these. Overhead on the box is minimal as most time critical functions is handled by the card's firmware.

I've never actually set up a box with 4x 54mbps cards, but I have set up a box with 4x 11mbps cards (Prism 2/2.5) and it worked like a bomb [:D]

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by flashvc</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by greedyflyza</i>
<br />When using the PCI cards as APs.. does this cause any kind of strain ie. CPU usage. Also does this lower speed significantly?

Can this be done with specifically 54Mbps and a maximum of 4 PCI card network (WLAN) with no APs? What would this cost per card..

Quotes anyone.. email me [:D]
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Yes, PrismGT is the 54mbps version (802.11g) of the Prism chipset. There's also driver for these. Overhead on the box is minimal as most time critical functions is handled by the card's firmware.

I've never actually set up a box with 4x 54mbps cards, but I have set up a box with 4x 11mbps cards (Prism 2/2.5) and it worked like a bomb [:D]

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It blew up? HALA! HALA! HALA! [:D]
 
Latest wireless prices from Rectron Cape Town -

<u>PCMCIA and USB</u>
<b>R225</b> - Gigabyte® 11Mbps 802.11b PCMCIA Cardbus Adaptor
<b>R355</b> - Gigabyte® 11Mbps 802.11b/g PCMCIA Cardbus Adaptor - ranges of upto 457m outside
<b>R295</b> - Gigabyte® 11Mbps 802.11b USB Wireless LAN Adaptor, 64bit / 128bit WEP Standard
<b>R295</b> - Gigabyte® 11Mbps USB Module for Motherboards, 1 x External Antenna

<u>ACCESS POINTS</u>
<b>R450</b> - Gigabyte® 11Mbps 802.11b Access Point, Support SNMP Management
<b>R950</b> - Gigabyte® 54Mbps 802.11b/g Access Point, Support SNMP Management; 1 x 10/100Mbps LAN port w/ Auto-negotiation function

<u>ADAPTORS</u>
<b>R295</b> - Gigabyte® USB to Bluetooth Adaptor - Bluetooth V1.1, USB 1.1, Support Device Firmware Upgrade over USB
<b>R395</b> - Gigabyte® USB to Bluetooth Adaptor for USB Printers - Bluetooth V1.1, USB 1.1, Support FHSS (Frequency Hopping Spreading Spectrum)

Get a few cards, an access point, a connection and share it and the cost with other people. Screw the fact that it's considered illegal.

Formula for relief:
(Car + tow rope + 1st gear) - telkom exchange box = big smile
 
We'll ofcourse I will share the costs ;)

Yeah, I'll be having a talk with the other guy tonight.
I will suck losing half my bandwidth, but it ok.

Tomorrow I'll probably know if it's a go, and then We'll probably decide what hardware to buy. If it all is a go, the it should happen it the next 2 weeks unless decided.

And yeah, I'll tell you how well it works.
 
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