The Day Before: The Saga

HartsockZA said:
I cringe when people use a wiki as a source code to their arguments. Just talk, give me your opinion man/women, whatever you are on the other side of the screen. All I am saying is the entire gaming industry is unregulated and we as gamers know how to do this all to well (well some) cause if the government or some private watchdog does it, what a **** fest.
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OK, It's crucial to understand the concept of a free market. In a free market, anyone can sell a product, and its value is determined by the market itself. In this case, the market spoke, and many customers requested refunds, which Valve promptly honored. This demonstrates the flexibility and responsiveness of a free market, where consumers have the power to influence the success or failure of a product based on its perceived value..

While it might seem like a reasonable measure to ensure product quality, it could potentially lead to increased overhead costs, necessitating more staff and resources. This additional expense would likely be passed on to us, the consumers. Valve's decision to treat this situation on a case-by-case basis, refunding customers and closing the store when the company closed, seems to be a sensible approach. It avoids the need for Valve to play the role of a content police for all products, which would be an unsustainable model.

I believe Valve did what was necessary in this situation – they listed a product for sale, promptly addressed refund requests, and closed the store when the company closed. This proactive approach averted the need for legal action and ensures that the market remains free and open.
 
If I am not mistaken, there is also some sort of clause that states if you put your game up as early access, you are compelled to keep the game up, regularly update it etc as you are essentially asking people to buy a game that is not in its finished state. When Fantastic pulled the game, they pretty much gave up any money that was going to come to them which is why Steam is now honoring refunds. I don't think Steam releases funds to developers as it comes in when it is in early access. I believe there is a holding period.

They should have read the fine print.
 
dotdan said:
If I am not mistaken, there is also some sort of clause that states if you put your game up as early access, you are compelled to keep the game up, regularly update it etc as you are essentially asking people to buy a game that is not in its finished state. When Fantastic pulled the game, they pretty much gave up any money that was going to come to them which is why Steam is now honoring refunds. I don't think Steam releases funds to developers as it comes in when it is in early access. I believe there is a holding period.

They should have read the fine print.
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Valve honors refunds regardless of dev type or game status. You can even refund AAA games, the only diff is that normally there is a time window of hours played on cases like this the "time played" gets overridden. Was the same in Cyberpunk's case, refunds where allowed on release even after 8+ hours of game play.
 
AlphaJohn said:
Valve honors refunds regardless of dev type or game status. You can even refund AAA games, the only diff is that normally there is a time window of hours played on cases like this the "time played" gets overridden. Was the same in Cyberpunk's case, refunds where allowed on release even after 8+ hours of game play.
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They definitely wont get paid:

  • Q. When can I expect to be paid every month?
    A. We pay out by the 30th of the month following sales. For example, we will pay you for calendar February month sales by March 30th. It may take a few business days for the payment to post to your bank account. In that case, you may see the payment in your bank account during the first few days of April, following the example above.

Q: What happens if I don't complete my game?​

A: Sometimes things don't work out as you planned, and you may need to discontinue development of your game. If this happens, you should contact Valve to figure out the next steps. Before reaching out, take a moment to carefully consider whether or not pulling your game down is actually the right choice. Are you acting based on an emotional response to negative feedback, or is retiring your game the appropriate next step? We take our relationship with customers seriously, so if you choose to cancel development of a game and retire it from the store, we will not republish it again later and we may offer refunds to any users who purchased it. Treating customers fairly is the most important thing to us. You can learn more by reading Removing a Product From Steam.
 
dotdan said:
They definitely wont get paid:

  • Q. When can I expect to be paid every month?
    A. We pay out by the 30th of the month following sales. For example, we will pay you for calendar February month sales by March 30th. It may take a few business days for the payment to post to your bank account. In that case, you may see the payment in your bank account during the first few days of April, following the example above.

Q: What happens if I don't complete my game?​

A: Sometimes things don't work out as you planned, and you may need to discontinue development of your game. If this happens, you should contact Valve to figure out the next steps. Before reaching out, take a moment to carefully consider whether or not pulling your game down is actually the right choice. Are you acting based on an emotional response to negative feedback, or is retiring your game the appropriate next step? We take our relationship with customers seriously, so if you choose to cancel development of a game and retire it from the store, we will not republish it again later and we may offer refunds to any users who purchased it. Treating customers fairly is the most important thing to us. You can learn more by reading Removing a Product From Steam.
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I know, I was simply saying that that is not the primary reason why they honor refunds.
 
HartsockZA said:
Lol steam should be slapped with a massive fine. But knowing us gamers we'll not do say anything to hurt old Gabe's feelings
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Why? What did they do? They sold the game, honoured refunds and did what they are contractually bound to do.
Problem with the world today is everyone with hurt feelings shouting "fine them".
 
Just when you think it can't get more fun

kotaku.com

Steam Keys For This Gaming Disaster Are Being Sold For Hundreds Of Dollars

Setting that money on fire is probably a more fun way to make use of that cash, though
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According to Green Man Gaming (which is an authorized third-party key seller that monitors and lists the prices of keys on the more sketchy side of the reselling business), the cheapest you can get an (allegedly) unused The Day Before code for is $233.97. Two other sites are selling it for $304.
 
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