2010 Hungarian F1 GP

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Practice One - Red Bull out in front in Hungary

Sebastian Vettel and Mark Webber looked to be in a world of their own round the Hungaroring on Friday morning in the opening practice session for the Hungarian Grand Prix. They traded fastest times a second clear of their closest rivals, and ended the 90-minute session with Vettel fractionally ahead with 1m 20.976s to 1m 21.106s.

So far the Ferraris have got nowhere near their pace, and the strongest challenger was Robert Kubica who wheeled his Renault round in 1m 22.072s to head Jenson Button’s McLaren (1m 22.444s), Rubens Barrichello’s Williams (1m 22.601s), Pedro de la Rosa’s BMW Sauber (1m 22.764s), Fernando Alonso’s Ferrari (1m 22.772s), Nico Rosberg’s Mercedes (1m 22.777s), Michael Schumacher’s Mercedes (1m 22.792s) and Nico Hulkenberg’s Williams (1m 22.966s).
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Hope this race is more interesting than the German one.
 
satanboy said:
Looking pretty crap for Mercedes.
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Brawn and Whitmarsh want clarification from Charlie and the FIA on the rule governing the front wing.
http://www.f1technical.net/news/15252
There are endplates out there whose metallic skids are touching the ground, which are meant to be way off the ground.
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The past few years have been about the FIA's lack of clarity in the rules department... a second a lap faster makes for a poor spectacle. The rest of the pack are pretty close.
 
Oh, I hope you're right Airwolf... wet will make it interesting - especially if top speeds (and ergo downforce produced by the flexi wings) are compromised...
 
Dick move by Michael on Rubens. So glad Rubens got past.
 
BradBowlLlama said:
Brawn and Whitmarsh want clarification from Charlie and the FIA on the rule governing the front wing.
http://www.f1technical.net/news/15252

The past few years have been about the FIA's lack of clarity in the rules department... a second a lap faster makes for a poor spectacle. The rest of the pack are pretty close.
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I never heard brawn complaining last season when they were a second quicker for the first half of the season, suddenly brawn has a crap slow team and he is moaning.

Redbull are just the better car, no amount of complaining will change that.
 
killadoob said:
I never heard brawn complaining last season when they were a second quicker for the first half of the season, suddenly brawn has a crap slow team and he is moaning.

Redbull are just the better car, no amount of complaining will change that.
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The fastest team will get flack, the 2nd and 3rd fastest will be dishing it out - that'll never change. That being said, I'm not sure everything's kosher with that Red Bull... The super-slowmo shots from yesterday showed the endplates on the RB6's front wing scrape the ground, yet the regulations state that the wing should be at least 88mm off the ground & flexible wings supposedly aren't allowed... :confused:
 
killadoob said:
I never heard brawn complaining last season when they were a second quicker for the first half of the season, suddenly brawn has a crap slow team and he is moaning.

Redbull are just the better car, no amount of complaining will change that.
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Nope, they (Brawn) want to develop one but can't afford to waste money on something the FIA will ultimately disallow anyhow:
The FIA has moved to try to bring an end to Formula 1's flexible front wing row by telling teams it will ramp up the deflection tests from the next race in Belgium, AUTOSPORT has learned.
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The issue is not the rules - everyone knows that the flexible front wings are illegal according to the rules - the things actually scrape the ground during a race (they have to be level with the bottom of the car in a nutshell). The questionmark is on the FIA's inspection tests which are flawed and can't be used to enforce the rules.

At the moment the endplates on the front wing are allowed to flex by a maximum of 10mm when a load of 50 kilogrammes (500 Newtons) is applied to them.

The FIA has told teams now that it reserves the right to increase that test up to 100 kilogrammes - and it will only allow a linear increase of deflection up to 20mm.

The linear increase is designed to ensure that teams are not using clever material design to ensure that their cars pass the deflection test to stay within the regulations but then flex much more at higher loads.

It is also understood that the FIA is to clamp down on teams using clever fixings and joints on the underfloor of the car – amid suspicions that this is one area that teams could also be exploiting the regulations.

Mercedes GP team principal Ross Brawn, who had sought clarification from the FIA about the flexible wing regulations, confirmed on Sunday night that he expected the tests to change for Spa.

"I understand that there may be some changes in the way the tests are done, but obviously the cars involved pass the current tests," he said prior to the document from the FIA being sent out. "And the argument is that if they pass the current test, then the tests are not correct.

"You can clearly see on the track that there is quite a dramatic difference between the cars, which is part of the game – I've been there myself so what normally happens is that the FIA improve the tests and I think that is what is going to happen.
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My problem with all this is they will disallow them in future but the teams who have used illegal wings till now will not lose out on their points gained by using them. The rules are clear, but the tests are flawed. Why have two classes of cars at the front? If you asked me, I'd speculate that the FIA has been fixing the championship yet again.
 
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BCO said:
Dick move by Michael on Rubens. So glad Rubens got past.
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Me too... nothing new though, Ask JV, Hill, Alonso... really just glad Rubinho never hit the concrete.

Vettel has disappointed this year - how many poles has he converted to wins?
 
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I think that was fair from Michael, no swerving, he made one move across the track (albeit a slow move) but Rubens really should have been going round the outside. That is the kind of racing we want to see!!!
 
Im just happy Ferrari are kindof back in the mix.... Wasn't pleasant watching Massa let Alonso through last weekend, but this race was a lot better for them.
If they are investigating flexi wings, don't RBR have some sort of flexi undercarriage?? Perhaps I heard wrong....
 
Yes, so right about Ferrari, they had a storming weekend, a little lucky with Vettel but they are behind in the lucky department. McLaren are riding that wave... well were until last weekend rofl.
 
phiber said:
I think that was fair from Michael, no swerving, he made one move across the track (albeit a slow move) but Rubens really should have been going round the outside. That is the kind of racing we want to see!!!
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Too close IMO, especially considering the concrete and his history of incidents - at least he apologised.
 
Vettel has no luck either haha, if he is not crashing into his team mate something always seems to go wrong.

Poor start
faulty brakes
faulty car
crashes


He never seems to have a good race actually when he starts from pole :D.
 
killadoob said:
Vettel has no luck either haha, if he is not crashing into his team mate something always seems to go wrong.

Poor start
faulty brakes
faulty car
crashes


He never seems to have a good race actually when he starts from pole :D.
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Don't you think this penalty he got was a bit odd... why would he protect Webber unless he was told to do so? I think he was following unofficial team orders somewhere.... I don't buy the fact that he was sleeping.
 
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