Apple becomes second largest PC vendor in Q2 2011: Canalys

Lame. Tablets are not PCs. Take away the iPad sales and then update the comparisons.
 
I have seen this before... misleading headline.

Apples are not PC's... they are MAC's

Only Apple sell MAC's so strictly speaking they are the best MAC sellers.

.... not the best PC sellers.
 
ghoti said:
Are pads considered PCs?
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Canalys considers them to be. It's something they changed in the way the do their analysis recently.

Nerfherder said:
I have seen this before... misleading headline.

Apples are not PC's... they are MAC's

Only Apple sell MAC's so strictly speaking they are the best MAC sellers.

.... not the best PC sellers.
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PC is an acronym for Personal Computer, which Canalys has taken to mean desktops, notebooks, and pads (with netbooks getting their own category in Canalys' stats as well).

"PC" as short-hand for "Windows-based personal computer" was introduced later, and I would argue that it is inaccurate. "Wintel" is more accurate but doesn't give credit to AMD for their 64 bit architecture.
 
Nerfherder said:
I have seen this before... misleading headline.

Apples are not PC's... they are MAC's

Only Apple sell MAC's so strictly speaking they are the best MAC sellers.

.... not the best PC sellers.
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Wow, that is the most ignorant post I have seen in a while. If you are talking about computers, MAC has a very specific and well known meaning (It is an acronym for Media Access Control address)
A Macintosh (Sometimes abbreviated to Mac) is a form of PC (An acronym for Personal Computer) sold by Apple.

And lastly, of course an iPad is a PC. There is no difference between an iPad and a notebook other than the keyboard and touchscreen
 
I think nerf was being sarcastic (remember mac vs pc ads from apple?)

apart from updated statistics on sales, conclusions are obvious: iPad has been selling well.

as defining the iPad as a pc, that's work in progress. I mean, is it a smartphone or a notebook (both no). if it can accomplish all tasks that a laptop can, by all means call it a pc. current iterations cannot but in a few years alot can change, even the whole understanding as to what 'personal computing' means.
 
JStrike said:
And lastly, of course an iPad is a PC. There is no difference between an iPad and a notebook other than the keyboard and touchscreen
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So you're saying that it can do everything a notebook can, bar the keyboard and trackpad? Can it read/write optical media? Can you connect external peripherals? Does it do HDMI? Can you connect a secondary display? Can you be as productive with an office suite as you would be on a notebook? Can developers use it as a development machine?
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
So you're saying that it can do everything a notebook can, bar the keyboard and trackpad? Can it read/write optical media? Can you connect external peripherals? Does it do HDMI? Can you connect a secondary display? Can you be as productive with an office suite as you would be on a notebook? Can developers use it as a development machine?
an office suite as you would be on a notebook? Can developers use it as a development machine?
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still have a 386 lying around at home. it cant do any of these things (bar development perhaps) yet I always thought it was a pc:p
 
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battletoad said:
still have a 386 lying around at home. it cant do any of these things (perhaps bar development) yet I always thought it was a pc:p an office suite as you would be on a notebook? Can developers use it as a development machine?

still have a 386 lying around at home. it cant do any of these things (perhaps bar development) yet I always thought it was a pc:p
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It probably won't do HDMI, but it can still do the rest. HDMI is a modern inclusion obviously :P

He was comparing it to existing notebooks anyway, not to 386s from the stone age :D
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
Lame. Tablets are not PCs. Take away the iPad sales and then update the comparisons.
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Well, if you're happy to include netbook sales to the "PC" total you have to include iPad sales to the Apple total. Tablets compete directly with netbooks and they're winning that fight right now.

PS. In other news sure to upset all Apple haters ever... In Q2 2011, Apple also became the largest vendor of smart phones by volume, overtaking Nokia for the first time.
 
Does anyone think this makes complete sense as all the other makers are divided.

So you have apple products vs 1000's of other products by different manufacturers. I am amazed they are not first actually.
 
I honestly thought that MSI or even Gigabyte sold more motherboards/PC's than Apple sold Mac's.
 
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