Apple slams “fundamentally flawed” e-book lawsuit

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Apple slams “flawed” e-book lawsuit

Apple Inc is rejecting charges that it conspired to fix prices of electronic books, calling the U.S. government’s antitrust lawsuit a “fundamentally flawed” endeavor that could discourage competition and harm consumers...
 
Apple mentality: It's only fundamentally flawed when it's someone else suing you.
 
The facts that I have read on the matter, no doubt the same ones investigated by the US Government, have convinced me that Apple and the publishers are guilty.

Just my opinion, but as it happens the US Government agrees with me.

Now they just have to prove it.
 
Jola said:
The facts that I have read on the matter, no doubt the same ones investigated by the US Government, have convinced me that Apple and the publishers are guilty.
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I got that from the "IMHO Apple is guilty" part but I was asking what those facts were that so convinced you.
 
Apple and the publishers illegally conspired to rig the prices of e-books at artificially high levels.

If Apple was a SA company they would have been fined 10% of their turnover (ie billions of dollars) for doing this.
 
Jola said:
Apple and the publishers illegally conspired to rig the prices of e-books at artificially high levels.
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Yes that is the DoJ's allegation but they haven't provided any evidence against Apple as far as I can see. The reports seem to indicate meetings between the publishes executives but Apple wasn't present at those.

Also in Apple's favor is that it is a new entrant into this market with minimal market share and the agency model is Apple's standard model for all their online goods.

What have I missed that has you convinced that Apple is at fault here?
 
As the owner of iTunes, Apple is a major participant in the market.

It seems that the DOJ has more than enough evidence, they are going ahead with the case.

Ditto in Europe.

Apple would cry foul, all guilty parties do !
 
Jola said:
As the owner of iTunes, Apple is a major participant in the market.
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Apple has less than 10% of the eBook market as far as I know with Amazon having nearly 90%.

Jola said:
It seems that the DOJ has more than enough evidence, they are going ahead with the case.
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They may have but from what I can see there hasn't been any public release that would lead a person such as yourself to so conclusively decide that Apple is guilty. What have I missed?

Also it behooves us to remember that the DoJ has brought cases like this without merit before.
 
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Jola said:
You forget that some of the publishers have already admitted guilt and settled. I am sure that they are cooperating with the DoJ.
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What has that got to do with Apple? Like I said early the DoJ has alleged that the publishers had meetings to discuss pricing in New York and it seems to be a large part of their case, however Apple had nothing to do with those meetings.

Jola said:
Let's turn this around, what on earth makes you think that Apple is innocent ?
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I can't say whether they are innocent or not at this stage, merely that there seems to be no evidence to suggest wrong doing available yet. Hence why I asked what I may have missed.
 
Oh Apple. We all know how much you love competition and [-]walking wallets[/-] consumers.
 
icyrus said:
I can't say whether they are innocent or not at this stage, merely that there seems to be no evidence to suggest wrong doing available yet. Hence why I asked what I may have missed.
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The judge has refused to throw the case out because she says apple appears to have a case to answer http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/05/judge-ample-evidence-that-apple-knowingly-joined-e-book-conspiracy/

Also apple is busy settling in the EU so there is a really good chance they are guilty. It's just up to the lawyers to
Prove it.
 
Headline from link in previous post :

Judge: Ample evidence that Apple "knowingly joined" e-book conspiracy
Apple hasn't been found guilty yet, but the judge's comments don't bode well.
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I guess that the judge knows more than we do.
 
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