Bosch Service Centre and their attempt to rip me off

ToxicBunny

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As a sort of follow on from the Car Service City threads about them being a rip off, I have my own story now unfortunately.

I had the misfortune of having clutch issues yesterday when I was on the way to work, and it just so happened in a place where I couldn't get the vehicle home to sort it out myself (it would have involved a 35km tow). I had the vehicle towed to the Bosch Service Centre in Mt Edgecombe in Durban thinking they're a relatively reputable place, and may charge a slight premium but at least it will get fixed in a reasonable time frame, oh how wrong I was.

First things first, they couldn't even spare a mechanic for 5 minutes to confirm my suspicions that either the Master cylinder or the Slave cylinder on the clutch had given up the ghost and were letting air into the system on the day the vehicle arrived and instead had my vehicle there for the whole day and up until about 10am today before calling me with a quote.

Now comes the quote, they gave me 2 quotes. 1 for Agent parts and 1 for non-agent parts. I would expect the Agent quote to be bad, but they came back with a price of R6500 (approximately) to replace the master and slave with agent parts. I had a bit of trouble not snorting my coffee through my nose at that point, but i initially just wrote it off to the agent parts being stupidly expensive. The guy then gave me the quote for the job using non-agent parts, and whilst I was bracing for a price that was higher than I was expecting, the figure that was given to me on the phone actually made me ask the guy if he was "fscking serious". They wanted R4500 to do the job using non-agent parts.

I then spent the next hour phoning a few places, and every single quote for the parts I got was in the R500 - R800 range for a master and a slave cylinder. I also phoned the agents and got pricing on their parts as well just for shytes and giggles, and they were about R3400 for both master and slave. Of course I expected the agent parts to be stupidly expensive, but it turns out Bosch were trying to make a ridiculous markup on both agent and non-agent parts.

For the labour, they were going to charge me 4 hours to do the job, at R450 per hour ex vat. so all in R1800 ex vat. After actually using my brain for a second in amongst all of this, i remembered that I had done a similar job on a previous vehicle of mine and it had only taken me (a very much amateur mechanic) about 2 hours. So first off they were massively inflating their labour needs for a very very basic job, and they wanted to charge me nearly R3k for non agent parts, and nearly R5k for agents parts, so they were tacking on a 250+% markup on the non agent parts, and nearly 100% markup on the agent parts.

I'm all for a service place making a reasonable profit, but these guys were hoping to make R3k+ out of me in pure profit for the non-agent job purely because I was in a "bind" and would need the vehicle fixed.

I am now getting my vehicle fixed for an all in price of R2k, that includes paying Bosch for half an hours labour to get the vehicle out of their hands, the tow truck to take it to a mechanic nearby, and for the mechanic to get me the parts and do the job.

For those who go TLDR, here is the summary :
Avoid Bosch Service Centres if you are in a bind and need to get your vehicle fixed, it seems like they will try and abuse that position to make themselves extra money.
 
Had a similar experience with the one here on Beyers Naude, wanted to charge 7500 to recon my steering rack, took it to another place and paid 4500 in the end.
 
I once took my car to the Bosch place in Pietermaritzburg. The agents wanted around R20 000 to replace the high pressure diesel pump, and when I stopped laughing at them the workshop foreman suggested I take it to Bosch who would overhaul it. So for R6 000 they got the job. It was a disaster.

The voltage regulator needed changing too, and that was done at the same time. They hacked the wiring harness because they couldn't find the right regulator. They took two weeks after promising that the car would be ready by the end of the week. They only delivered the car the morning I was leaving for Grahamstown, and only because I had been on the phone to them every day demanding my car back.

The protective cover under the body was scraping on the road. They sent a mechanic out to fix it.

They never tightened the bolts back on the pipe from the turbo to the manifold - it came off at the last robot as I was leaving town. The mechanic they sent never arrived, so I went to the agents who fixed it on the spot, supplying new bolts and not even opening a job card.

Before we had gone 15km the protective cover came undone and started scraping on the road again. I briefly discussed the issue with them over the phone, and may have sworn at them. We stripped the scraping cover off ourselves, threw it in the boot and drove on.

When I got back home and tried to re-fit the cover under the car, I noticed that they had left the metal sump guard off completely, which had left the cover un-supported in front, and the airflow from driving pulled it off. They then accused me of removing the sump guard before bringing the car in, before eventually taking one from another car they were working on and fitting it to my car, and telling me they'd give me a discount next time I brought the car in.

A year later when the (second hand) voltage regulator they fitted failed, I replaced it myself, and noticed that they had never tightened the pipe that leads from the air filter to the inlet on the turbo - so the turbo had been sucking dirty air for a year. I also discovered that the repairs to the high pressure pump leak that they charged me R6 000 for was easily fixed by replacing a couple of O-rings, available from Bosch at a cost of a few rand.

Somehow I don’t see myself going back there…
 
I've only used to to diagnose an electrical fault in my old E30 BMW, didn't know they did general auto repair, thought it was only electrical. Seems they do a bum job at that too.
 
At least there's recourse if they **** up. While these semi-backyarders will send you from pillar to post.

You think there is recourse at the agent? Really?

I would trust a backyard mechanic over the agents, any day of the week.
 
Now I'm afraid of taking my car to anyone but the agents:(

The only difference is that the agents give you filter coffee and muffins while they screw you. And you pay for the muffins. You even pay for the muffins the staff eat :)
 
The only difference is that the agents give you filter coffee and muffins while they screw you. And you pay for the muffins. You even pay for the muffins the staff eat :)

Strangely enough I got better service at my local VW dealer for getting my car sorted and the pricing wasn't as horrid as i thought then I've gotten even from my trusted mechanic I normally take the car too. My dad kept insisting I take my Polo there and the price came in at maybe R100 more then I'd normally pay and I didn't have to try find a lift home or back etc...
Also found out my electric mirror is half the price at the VW dealer then I was quoted at various other places, might still take them up on replacing it.
 
It is always a case of shopping around,

But generally the decent backyard mechanics are going to be cheaper and better.

I do like the idea of a list of "trusted" mechanics for emergencies.
 
It is a scary and costly thing to end up at a shark. That's why some of us always default to the agent.

The Agent would have charged me more than Bosch to do the same job... so I would class the Agent as even MORE of a shark than Bosch.

I don't trust the mechanics at the agents anymore, they're not trained mechanics anymore. All they do is replace parts that the system tells them to replace.
 
But generally the decent backyard mechanics are going to be cheaper and better.

And you find the goods by word of mouth and they're usually booked up like dentists.


I don't trust the mechanics at the agents anymore, they're not trained mechanics anymore. All they do is replace parts that the system tells them to replace.

+1 They're part swappers these days.

I know of one guy that had almost everything in his engine compartment replaced by the dealership as they could not find the fault. He basically ended up with all new mechanicals, he was smiling :D
 
I will never again take my car to Bosch Service Centre on Beyers Naude (old Performer 2000).

Took my car in to have a leaking slave cylinder replaced. They did it, but not before ****ing up the brake boost pipe, brake light switch and speedy drive on my gearbox (seriously, the ****?).

Also poor communication and slow service, avoid.
 
The guy my car was at is clearly very very busy... there must have been 15 cars in his back yard being worked on.

I got my car back, and all costs including towing it away from Bosch and paying Bosch the half hour labour to get it out of their hands was less then half what Bosch wanted to charge me for the job
 
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