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Executive Member
WASPS claim that it is impossible to subscribe someone else to their services because it requires user intervention.
See for example the claim made here. I got subscribed to them without my consent, see here. It was found that their subscription system swopped a 2 for a 9 and that the problem occurred regularly. See this post.
A colleague of mine nearly got subscribed to Love Guru. A Welcome message was sent to his phone but billing luckily got blocked by Vodacom's double-opt in mechanism. The WASP, Integrat, blamed it on a technical error. For a description of what double opt-in is, see the quoted part in this post.
So here then is conclusive proof that you can subscribe someone without their consent.
I found an add for Bestcoolmobile circled in red here below:
Clicking the link routes to this page below:
I entered my cell number and then it asks for a 4 digit password. (I had a few other simcards handy and entered their numbers as well just to check. Each time a 4 digit password is sent via sms to the cell phone number entered.)
I entered random numbers and the server allowed multiple retries:
EDIT: Some details removed due to objections from fellow forumites.
After trying several different pin codes (of course, I knew the pin code already, just had to check if I could try ad infinitum) after a while I got signed up.
It took 971 tries to hit the correct pin code of 5971.
Since only 4 digits are required the number of possibilities is 10000. If I want to subscribe someone to this "service", it will take a maximum of 10000 retries.
This is why double-opt in MUST be implemented by ALL the networks.
By the way, the above "service" is also run by Integrat. Seems their subscription systems, like Kulaville's, are in need of serious overhaul!
EDIT: Also, I don't condone taking revenge on anybody. I just wanted to expose the lies and corruption of this detestable industry since I was a victim myself.
EDIT: Due to objections, I had to remove some details. Apologies.
See for example the claim made here. I got subscribed to them without my consent, see here. It was found that their subscription system swopped a 2 for a 9 and that the problem occurred regularly. See this post.
A colleague of mine nearly got subscribed to Love Guru. A Welcome message was sent to his phone but billing luckily got blocked by Vodacom's double-opt in mechanism. The WASP, Integrat, blamed it on a technical error. For a description of what double opt-in is, see the quoted part in this post.
So here then is conclusive proof that you can subscribe someone without their consent.
I found an add for Bestcoolmobile circled in red here below:
Clicking the link routes to this page below:
I entered my cell number and then it asks for a 4 digit password. (I had a few other simcards handy and entered their numbers as well just to check. Each time a 4 digit password is sent via sms to the cell phone number entered.)
I entered random numbers and the server allowed multiple retries:
EDIT: Some details removed due to objections from fellow forumites.
After trying several different pin codes (of course, I knew the pin code already, just had to check if I could try ad infinitum) after a while I got signed up.
It took 971 tries to hit the correct pin code of 5971.
Since only 4 digits are required the number of possibilities is 10000. If I want to subscribe someone to this "service", it will take a maximum of 10000 retries.
This is why double-opt in MUST be implemented by ALL the networks.
By the way, the above "service" is also run by Integrat. Seems their subscription systems, like Kulaville's, are in need of serious overhaul!
EDIT: Also, I don't condone taking revenge on anybody. I just wanted to expose the lies and corruption of this detestable industry since I was a victim myself.
EDIT: Due to objections, I had to remove some details. Apologies.
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