Windows 10 free upgrade - the details

Windows 7 Starter, Home Basic and Pro are getting the biggest benefit here.

- Windows 7 Starter Users get the 2GB Ram limit lifted to a max of 3.5-4GB since the OS is limited to 32-bit.
- Windows 7 Home Basic gets the 8GB Ram limit for 64-bit lifted to whatever Windows 10 Home 64-bit offers.
- Windows 7 Pro Users get the same upgrade as Ultimate users.
 
Say what????

USB floppy/stiffy drives require new drivers. You will need to download the latest driver from Windows Update or from the manufacturer’s website.
 
Windows 10 Home users can’t defer updates. Only Windows 10 Pro and Windows 10 Enterprise users will have the ability to defer updates.
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Hold your ankles if you're on a 3G connection with Home edition.
 
Napalm2880 said:
Hold your ankles if you're on a 3G connection with Home edition.
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Totempole said:
My thoughts exactly. They should rethink that policy in emerging markets.
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Yep, agree, I am on a Cell C Giga 200 package, and always do manual updates of Windows and their MSE security software between 24H and 6 AM, 3 or 4 times a week.
Some times those updates are hundreds of Mbs, or even more. More than one Gb.
 
Napalm2880 said:
Hold your ankles if you're on a 3G connection with Home edition.
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Bite the pillow, Micro$oft is going in dry :)

Yeah, it's a bit of a weird policy to have, opting out of updates should really be present, no matter what edition. Updates are important yes, but typically people who cannot afford more than Starter / Home Basic generally wouldn't have unlimited data plans.
 
If they stick to implementation of that auto update story for Home users, I'll stick with Windows 7 for as long as possible.

My reason/s aren't primarily because of data, but partly - I use Vox Bolt-on (after 6pm) to do my updates manually, so don't need MS screwing me around by auto loading them during the day.

However, I'm more concerned with the screw-up's they make with their security patches from time to time.
As referred to in this article :

How Windows 10 updating will work: The devil's in the details (from 5th May 2015)
http://www.infoworld.com/article/29...-10-updating-will-work-devils-in-details.html

What if there's something terribly wrong with a patch? How long will it take Microsoft to a) identify that there's a problem and b) fix it? Will the fix zap out the bad patch (as we saw with the Silver Bullet patch last December), or do we need to wait for a full rewrite of the bad patch? Microsoft's track record -- especially recently -- does not inspire confidence.
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I was screwed around for about 3 months - think it was early'ish last year - with one of those SSL error messages when trying to log into GMail on Chrome .. to the point that I was eventually unable to log on in the browser.

After hunting around, I finally found an obscure post on a forum with a ref. to a KB FIX Microsoft issued for some or other erroneous patch they'd previously issued.

So stuff them - will stay on Windows 7 'til at least the 11th month, and see if they've made any positive changes re the above, in our favour. Remember, they're hoping everyone switches ASAP so they can push these updates when they want ; by staying on Win 7 it'll hopefully send a message to them that they must change their thinking in this regard.

EDIT :
They need to allow Home users the option of going onto that "Slow Ring" they currently have with early adopters testing Win 10 for them, so updates go out after a few weeks. This article above is ambiguous because it mentions that, but doesn't specify if it's for on Business users, or Home (as well ?) .. though the article sub-headings imply for Business.
Anyone know at this early stage whether Home will have the option of that "Slow Ring" ?
 
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you are talking about people with mere first world problems, they are so pampered that if one gets shot in the leg once she needs therapy for the rest of her life, here we just get told to walk it off and get over it...

The problem now it seems is if you keep the current os as is you can presumably move it from "device" to "device" as long as only one is used at a time, if you take the upgrade this becomes impossible. What I want to know is does the win7/8 code change to a win10 code or can you then later downgrade as you wish? Or are they sane/fair and will they change it to a hybrid code? Unless it's the latter I am staying the f away from the so far stupid 3gb per pc per time upgrade.

Win7 (for only the OS not the apps as well) is already a greedy little f-er for updates. Win8/8.1 has a few almost 1gb updates a year and Win8-to-8.1 had that wonderful 2.7gb update, for previous win's you could at least dl the service packs stand alone (how anyone things that 8.1 was not actually a terribly large service pack is beyond me) now the "in thing" is to get everyone to download them every time for every machine every time... the a-holes complain when they have 100gb caps on minimum accounts so it's understandable that they could think it's small but this is practically begging people of the 3rd world to pirate while giving it away for "free" at the same time.... the levels of stupidity is ridiculous. It makes so much more sense just to copy a random pirated iso from someone and do your own thing when you actually have to.
 
Windows 10 Pro for me then. Has MS confirmed whether or not SA gets Cortana? Not seeing anything about it with Google. I hope AMD hurries up and announces the 390X so I can hop on the DX12 train.
 
As an owner of a Windows 7 licence, will I be able install Windows 10 as a new installation?
I don't like upgrading. Would rather do a new installation.
Also, I have more than one pc to upgrade. Don't feel like downloading the OS twice
 
TimTDP said:
As an owner of a Windows 7 licence, will I be able install Windows 10 as a new installation?
I don't like upgrading. Would rather do a new installation.
Also, I have more than one pc to upgrade. Don't feel like downloading the OS twice
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Just make a backup of your current OS, make sure you've got your product key on hand and reformat the PC's now. My Windows 8 Pro key worked fine during my last Windows reinstall, despite being an upgrade purchase. I used the backup utility built in to Windows 8, and Windows 7 probably has it too.

Once you've downloaded and installed Windows 10 on one of the PC's, try making a backup DVD/USB and installing it on the second PC. Hopefully you can run the .exe from Computer and just let the install take over.
 
Windows updates for home edition will be compulsory???? :wtf:
 
I'm using Windows 8.1 Enterprise? Am I going to have to pay? Is there any other way to obtain the upgrade for free?
 
Strangelove said:
I'm using Windows 8.1 Enterprise? Am I going to have to pay? Is there any other way to obtain the upgrade for free?
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When your enterprise upgrades they will roll out 10 surely. Since enterprise isn't available for retail or oem or dsp purchase I doubt it will be part of this free upgrade.
 
I would also prefer to do a clean install (and move to an SSD), even though the auto updates are a pain. Still looking for a downloadable installer, but it will probably only be available after launch day. Looks promising though:
*Must be running the latest version of Windows 7 (Service Pack 1) to upgrade to Windows 10 via Windows Update, otherwise upgrade must be performed via installation media.
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Also from here.
 
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