New road rules for SA: 5 laws Govt want to pass

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Cape Town - Reduced speed limits, heavy vehicles to be banned during rush hour... earlier in 2015, Wheels24 reported on new draft road and traffic regulations for South Africa by the National Transport Department.

Draft regulations intended to reduce road carnage include slower speed limits, the banning of carrying children in a bakkie load bay and restricting the use of heavy vehicles on public roads.

The Justice Project South Africa claims the proposals were "bastardised by persons at the Department of Transport".

Earlier in 2015, the Transport department told Wheels24 the proposed regulations would possibly be implemented by the end of 2015.
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http://www.wheels24.co.za/Road_Trip/new-road-rules-for-sa-5-laws-govt-want-to-pass-20151119

More evidence that the Department of Transport has sweet fek all clue what they're actually doing.
 
2 No more than five people to be carried in a bakkie load bed
3 Children not to be transported in a bakkie load bed
5 Goods vehicles above 9000kg GVM to be banned from public roads during peak travelling times
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Can't see anything wrong with these, fing ahole trucks clogging up 3 of the 5 uphill lanes (N1 South in PTA East) or breaking down in peak hour...
 
MickeyD said:
I agree with 2 of them... about people/kids ont he back of bakkies.
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Yeah, that I do agree with...

The speed limits, banning heavy vehicles during peak traffic and re-evaluating when renewing a license I don't...

The re-evaluating aspect is purely because they just will not be able to handle the workload.
 
supersunbird said:
Can't see anything wrong with these, fing ahole trucks clogging up 3 of the 5 uphill lanes (N1 South in PTA East) or breaking down in peak hour...
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How much more do you want to pay for your goods out of interest?
 
supersunbird said:
Can't see anything wrong with these, fing ahole trucks clogging up 3 of the 5 uphill lanes (N1 South in PTA East) or breaking down in peak hour...
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Amen.

I'm so glad I don't do the N1 south between Menlyn Fart and Rigel offramp anymore - that as well as the N4 to N1 offramp... these three spots are very notorious wrt traffic jams.

But, on the other hand, as the bunny mentioned...

bleh.
 
supersunbird said:
Can't see anything wrong with these, fing ahole trucks clogging up 3 of the 5 uphill lanes (N1 South in PTA East) or breaking down in peak hour...
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Well I'll put it this way, that truck on average contributes more to the GDP than all the people in their ****ty little polos it replaces...

Bakkies, good idea!
Speed limits, fokkof... Poor road conditions, un-roadworthy vehicles and inadequate enforcement drive deaths in SA
Re-evaluating when getting a new license is a good idea but is being pushed as a money grabbing exercise and will result in an epic cluster**** of note, people just won't renew licenses.
 
adjusting speed limits will do nothing to curb the carnage. people just willfully drive shytty. you can legislate but you cant make kaka drivers good. especially when you cant even enforce the laws you have now.
 
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Having seen the aftermath of a Bakkie rolling with passengers on the back - I agree with that one.
I know its a hassle, But the mines have not allowed that for years.

And the heavy vehicles not allowed on public roads is also a nice idea.
There seems to be a heavy truck broken down on the N3 every Friday afternoon. Like clockwork.
 
ToxicBunny said:
Yeah, that I do agree with...

The speed limits, banning heavy vehicles during peak traffic and re-evaluating when renewing a license I don't...

The re-evaluating aspect is purely because they just will not be able to handle the workload.
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Well, then the solution is all trucks must use 1 lane. If the one in front is too slow due to overloading, the companies can sort it out amongst each other.
 
Don't mind most of those, but the speed limit thing is just a money spinner...
 
Compton_effect said:
Having seen the aftermath of a Bakkie rolling with passengers on the back - I agree with that one.
I know its a hassle, But the mines have not allowed that for years.
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Yup, seen that too, horrific.:sick:
 
The speed limit on our national roads here is 80. 50 in built up areas. 90 on double lane free ways and certain places near oslo it goes up to a crazy 110. That said, I wouldn't feel safe if everyone was doing 100 on those roads. SA is different and wiiide open. Also, no snow and ice on the roads. So it seems like someone heard a cool idea from a functioning country and decided to slap it into SA law without applying logic.

As for the bakkies. There should be NO people on the loadbeds. I had a friend hitch a ride on the back of a bakkie, got into an accident and he ragdolled to his death. If unskilled labour is transported on the back of a bakkie, then maybe the business model of those companies need to be re-evaluated. Sure it doesn't sound practical, but would you feel safe having your son or daughter on the back of a bakkie?

The driver re-evaluation is also a crappy idea. Clamp down on the issuing of new licenses and institute mandatory 3rd party insurance.
 
Voicy said:
The speed limit on our national roads here is 80. 50 in built up areas. 90 on double lane free ways and certain places near oslo it goes up to a crazy 110. That said, I wouldn't feel safe if everyone was doing 100 on those roads. SA is different and wiiide open. Also, no snow and ice on the roads. So it seems like someone heard a cool idea from a functioning country and decided to slap it into SA law without applying logic.
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It's not the speed of drivers relative to each other, it's the high amount pedestrian traffic that often causes a problem. I remember coming back to Durban on the N3, the road passed straight through a vliiage with settlements on either side, speed limit was reduced to 80 but we still almost wiped out a pedestrian who decided to cross without looking.
 
Cray said:
It's not the speed of drivers relative to each other, it's the high amount pedestrian traffic that often causes a problem. I remember coming back to Durban on the N3, the road passed straight through a vliiage with settlements on either side, speed limit was reduced to 80 but we still almost wiped out a pedestrian who decided to cross without looking.
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No you have it all wrong...

He didn't cross without looking, you should have stopped to see if anyone was about to cross...

I have almost wiped out people just blithely walking across freeways so many times that its almost gotten to the point where if I hit one so what. I can only try and avoid stupid, and one day I am 100% sure I won't be able to avoid the stupid.
 
ToxicBunny said:
No you have it all wrong...

He didn't cross without looking, you should have stopped to see if anyone was about to cross...

I have almost wiped out people just blithely walking across freeways so many times that its almost gotten to the point where if I hit one so what. I can only try and avoid stupid, and one day I am 100% sure I won't be able to avoid the stupid.
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YEah it's not cool. i once treated dutch tourists on the N2. They came around a bend and smacked a guy running across the road in pitch black darkness. The guy's body took out half of their city golf. It was the first time I dealt with a dead (very dead) body on a scene.

Cray said:
It's not the speed of drivers relative to each other, it's the high amount pedestrian traffic that often causes a problem. I remember coming back to Durban on the N3, the road passed straight through a vliiage with settlements on either side, speed limit was reduced to 80 but we still almost wiped out a pedestrian who decided to cross without looking.
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It sounds very dorky, but where I live here we have no direct sunlight for 2 months and the indirect light only lasts 4 hrs. So everyone walks around with reflex bracelets and danglers on them. It's the kind of thing everyone would make fun of you for in SA, but it's an absolute godsend when you're a driver and people are crossing the street or walking along the road. I keep them in my jacket pockets for whenever I'm walking outside.

It's quite adorable to see little kids kitted out in reflex. On school trips or even playing in a park you see them with full reflex jackets on...even pets on leashes have little jackets. We would laugh it off in SA as looking lame, but it makes all the difference. I even had battery operated bracelets that would flash red.

pinball wizard said:
Yeah, but one drop of rain here and the drivers lose their ****in' minds completely.
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Haha yeah it's silly. For 6 months of the year I drive with spikes on my tyres and even then you slide around like a deer on a frozen lake.
 
We would laugh it off in SA as looking lame,
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This is the crap that starts in school already... pick on and bully people who are different.
This culture is obsessed with being an Alpha Male Society, where real men don't need no stinking safety devices.

Sad really...
 
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