So I went on a test drive today: Clio, Mazda2 and Corsa

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Renault Clio

First stopped by Renault. Salesman is friendly, I tell him what I'm looking for and then starts showing off the Clio to me (the 1.2 Auto). Asked for a test drive but they didn't have that specific one available, so I ended up in the same spec Captur which. Took it out for a drive on the highway and back:

- interior is nice
- exterior is nice
- the drive is very quiet
- I felt a bit disconnected from it, as if there is a magic piece of something mushy connecting the steering wheel and wheels
- turbo lag....no really, it's bad. You put your foot down at standstill and it feels like forever for it to get going. The guy explained that it was their fancy new double clutch gear box, that you get used to it and the lighter Clio is more responsive. Same gearbox though so I dunno wtf.

Anyway, he made me a good deal on my car. Offered me R15k extra on initial offer and threw in free park assist. The extras came without me really pushing for it. All I did was tell him I'm still going to look at the Mazda 2. Not sure what to think of it, feels a bit...off. Renault just feels off.

Mazda 2

So off I went to Mazda and from the moment you walk in you kinda feel like they don't care. The guy who greeted me was the manager or something who called a saleswoman for me. Initially she came across a bit disinterested but showed me the car. I asked the difference between the Dynamic and Individual spec and she basically showed me the comparison table you find on the internet. The feeling is almost as if you should've done your homework and made your decision on which model you want before you go bother them. Anyway, the test drive (1.5 Individual Manual):

- the interior feels small and cramped compared to the others and I actually found it a bit boring
- the touchscreen on loo!s like a tablet was stuck to the dash with double sided tape
- feels solid/square on the road
- awesome to drive and go through the gears (test drive was very short though :( )
- feels way more lively than the 1.2 t turbo charged Clio. Day and night.

Opel Corsa

After all of that I was faced with a non responsive but awesome looking Clio and solid feeling boring Mazda 2 (and a rake it or leave it attitude that kinda ruined Mazda for me).

As I exit the dealership William Hunt appears on the corner. With nothing to lose and not much hope I ask them to show me the Corsa (even if it is just to proof to myself how much better the other two cars are). The salesman is awesome and it was the best test drive ever! I'm actually considering the guy as a Facebook friend and stuff.

So the car and test drive (they only had the base model):

- interior feels a bit cheap
- car is not the most exciting looking
- I did not know a 1.0 literally turbo charged engine can go like that through the backstreets of Bloubosrand. Felt like I was driving a rally car :D (somebody should tell Renault)

He told me the 1.4 is sold out but stock should be arriving soon.

Conclusion

Well I drive a 1.8 automatic Elantra with leather seats and the works. The only thing missing is a sun roof but like I've told the salesman - I'm tired of sedans. So that's why I'm looking at getting a hatch which might be a downgrade of sorts.

My current thinking on the cars:

Clio - looks pretty, nice place to sit in traffic, hate that gearbox, doubt I'll look at it any further.
Mazda 2 - depends on what they offer me for trade in but the small interior, only a 3 year warranty (I mean wtf, 3 years when almost everyone else is giving 5+) and the saleswoman kinda put me off.
Corsa - I'll test drive the 1.4 and depending on the interior I might just go for it.

It's funny, but the order of preference in car is almost exactly the order of "preference" I'd give the sales people. Just shows you what an impact a *** attitude or a lack of knowledge on the product you are selling can have.
 
Hmm, in the hatchback market you've got the following options

* Abarth 500
* Abarth Punto
* Alfa Romeo Giulietta
* Alfa Romeo MiTo
* Audi A1
* Audi A3
* BMW 1-series
* Citroen C1
* Citroen C2
* Citroen C3
* Chevrolet Cruze
* Chevrolet Spark
* Chevrolet Sonic
* DS 3
* Fiat 500
* Fiat Punto
* Ford Fiesta
* Ford Figo
* Ford Focus
* Honda Civic
* Honda Jazz
* Hyundai Veloster
* Kia Cerato
* Kia Rio
* Kia Soul
* Mazda 2
* Mazda 3
* Mercedes-Benz A-Class
* Mini Cooper
* Opel Astra
* Opel Corsa
* Peugeot 208
* Peugeot 308
* Renault Clio
* Renault Megane
* Toyota Auris
* Toyota Aygo
* Volkswagen Golf
* Volkswagen Polo

Quite a selection, but you can narrow it down, especially by budget.
 
I was looking at the same segment of cars a while ago.

My selection consisted of: Clio, i20, Mazda 2, Rio and Fiesta.

The i20 I think is overpriced for what you get. The Fiesta's interior feels very dated compared to the competition. The Clio has that god awful glossy plastic everywhere on the interior.

The Rio was actually quite nice inside and out but again I feel is was slightly too pricey.

My first stop at a Mazda dealer was also not pleasant (Mazda Paarden Eiland), the guy was friendly but there was no stock of the car and he really didn't want to help me find one. The next week I went to Mekor Mazda in Tygervalley and had excellent service from Peter there, went for a test drive and liked the Mazda 2 from the moment I got inside. After issues with financing and and then a trip overseas it took 2 months before I went back, he would keep in contact every now and then (not at all in a bad way). Ended up taking the slightly more expensive Individual model as I prefer the soft-touch dash to the carbon-fibre-like plastic.

Very happy with the car so far and imho it's the sexiest looking car out of the lot. Drives like a champ too.

It doesn't have the biggest interior and I wouldn't recommend it for a family, but I found the Clio more cramped. Back seats are definitely not suited for anyone over 6'2" but the front seats are very spacious for me. Regarding the warranty, I may still take out an extended warranty at some point depending on how long I want to keep the car. The warranty is perfect if you do a lot of driving as it's unlimited k's, I did find that the Mazda was the best value for money though so I can forgive the shorter warranty.
 
The "unlimited km" warranty is a sales thing since VERY few people actually clock that high a mileage in three years. A regular 5 yr/150,000 warranty will most likely do you better (who here drives more than 50,000km pa?).

If you don't give 5 years it feels like you either don't trust your product or have no interest in building a relationship with your buyer. My washing machine and TV had better warranties :/

As for i20 - boring. I already owned two Hyundai's and they're actually very good cars with excellent after sales service. But I need a change I think ;)
 
Hmm, in the hatchback market you've got the following options

* Abarth 500
* Abarth Punto
* Alfa Romeo Giulietta
* Alfa Romeo MiTo
* Audi A1
* Audi A3
* BMW 1-series
* Citroen C1
* Citroen C2
* Citroen C3
* Chevrolet Cruze
* Chevrolet Spark
* Chevrolet Sonic
* DS 3
* Fiat 500
* Fiat Punto
* Ford Fiesta
* Ford Figo
* Ford Focus
* Honda Civic
* Honda Jazz
* Hyundai Veloster
* Kia Cerato
* Kia Rio
* Kia Soul
* Mazda 2
* Mazda 3
* Mercedes-Benz A-Class
* Mini Cooper
* Opel Astra
* Opel Corsa
* Peugeot 208
* Peugeot 308
* Renault Clio
* Renault Megane
* Toyota Auris
* Toyota Aygo
* Volkswagen Golf
* Volkswagen Polo

Quite a selection, but you can narrow it down, especially by budget.

Yeah there's a ton of them. I narrowed it down specifically to be under R300k and it must be shorter in length than a sedan. A lot of the bigger hatchbacks are about just as long as their sedan cousins.

Another filter I used was "oh please hard, I don't wanna be hijacked and murdered", so out went VW and Toyota.

Also need some kind of boot space so gone are the Fiat 500s and Adams.
 
The "unlimited km" warranty is a sales thing since VERY few people actually clock that high a mileage in three years. A regular 5 yr/150,000 warranty will most likely do you better (who here drives more than 50,000km pa?).

If you don't give 5 years it feels like you either don't trust your product or have no interest in building a relationship with your buyer. My washing machine and TV had better warranties :/

As for i20 - boring. I already owned two Hyundai's and they're actually very good cars with excellent after sales service. But I need a change I think ;)

Sales reps :D

Ask the dealer about the extended warranty, I cannot remember exactly what the cost was (I think it was around 5-6k) so even with that extra it can still be good value.
 
Sales reps :D

Ask the dealer about the extended warranty, I cannot remember exactly what the cost was (I think it was around 5-6k) so even with that extra it can still be good value.
They should give me 5 years standard dammit! I don't want to beg for their love :D
 
So I was looking at similar cars and got the Clio 0.9T Manual and I am loving it, the Clios love to be pushed from 1st gear, and when you do the rewards are great, I've realised revving to just over 3000rpm is the sweet spot, and it simply sips fuel, going on to my 3rd week on the same tank of petrol, only at half tank now, haven't touched Eco mode.

I hope the Clio you drove was not in Eco mode, the car feels so dead in Eco.

That Corsa is a gem, if you can, also check the Opel Adam.

These new Super Minis are just awesome, be it Polo TSI, Fiesta EcoBoost, Clio TCe, Corsa 1.0T, Mazda2 etc... Small, practical and so nippy, they make mid size sedans look and feel big, unnecessary and boring.

We will see which of these Turbos will stand the test of time though, in the next 5years.
 
Opel Adam is just impractical. Looks like awesome fun though :D

The Clio I drove was an automatic. When I switched it to manual mode the lag was gone. Turbo lag is the wrong word to use maybe, gearbox lag is closer to the truth IMO.

Corsa was the only one to put a smile on my face all day. Need to decide if it is worth waiting for a 1.4 Sport or if the 1.0 Cosmo is good enough (R20k difference). Fuel economy should be a bit better in the Cosmo.
 
As for i20 - boring. I already owned two Hyundai's and they're actually very good cars with excellent after sales service. But I need a change I think ;)

They are boring because they rarely break :D

A friend of mine has a Golf and he has endless issues with it, but granted it has a few more kays on the odo than my Hyundai does, but his car makes for good conversation points every so often.

Thanks for the nice write-up in your original post. I quite like the Clio but the lag you mentioned is quite unsettling :/
 
Thanks for the nice write-up in your original post. I quite like the Clio but the lag you mentioned is quite unsettling :/

Best to test drive one yourself. The smaller manual Clio's might feel a lot better.
 
I have an asthmatic tired little 1.6 shoving around a big heavy i30 so I think anything will be an improvement for me :p

In all honesty I like the simplicity of a naturally aspirated motor, and I have already got my heart set on a new Mazda 3 hatch if I were to ever get rid of the Hyundai. Small efficient turbocharged engines are nice and I do appreciate the engineering and design that goes into them and maybe I am old hat but I really like the no-nonsense attitude of a non-turboed car :)
 
Lol, you are going to love owning something with a turbo.

I had a Polo Vivo 1.4, super frugal but also super slow, I had to drive the crap out of it to keep up with traffic. Its so nice to have the extra power from a turbo now, I've had okes in Ford Rangers, Toyota Land Cruisers and Hiluxes try to tailgate or take me on, and that turbo kicks in and okes are left with bruised egos and continued over compensation, so sad :)
 
My Mazda 2 has some nice power in the lower gears, it really moves from a standing start but you obviously don't have that instant power at higher gears.
 
These new Super Minis are just awesome, be it Polo TSI, Fiesta EcoBoost, Clio TCe, Corsa 1.0T, Mazda2 etc...
We will see which of these Turbos will stand the test of time though, in the next 5years.

Very simple answer to that question, the Mazda simply because its the only one without at turbo. That's why the 3yr warranty isn't a deal breaker, no turbo no intercooler no fancy duel clutch gearbox. good old simple Japanese engine and gearbox

Why are you set on going from sedan to hatch, i went the other way when i found out i can fit my whole bike and luggage in a sedan and not even know its there. Don't think I'll go back to a hatch again
 
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Very simple answer to that question, the Mazda simply because its the only one without at turbo. That's why the 3yr warranty isn't a deal breaker, no turbo no intercooler no fancy duel clutch gearbox. good old simple Japanese engine and gearbox
Isn't this why its always good to slap a Maintenance Plan on? At least 60000km, thats what I did. I only do around 10000km a year, so by the time I finish paying the car off it should be near the end of the plan. It covers turbo to.
 
Very simple answer to that question, the Mazda simply because its the only one without at turbo. That's why the 3yr warranty isn't a deal breaker, no turbo no intercooler no fancy duel clutch gearbox. good old simple Japanese engine and gearbox

Why are you set on going from sedan to hatch, i went the other way when i found out i can fit my whole bike and luggage in a sedan and not even know its there. Don't think I'll go back to a hatch again
I'm actually not so sure about these hatchbacks anymore. I've now been in a Honda Jazz and i20 and they all (except for that Clio maybe and the Polo I haven't tested) have pretty k*k interiors. Cheap plastics.

My 1.8 Elantra might be 5 years old but none of these beat its interior and ride quality.
 
I'm actually not so sure about these hatchbacks anymore. I've now been in a Honda Jazz and i20 and they all (except for that Clio maybe and the Polo I haven't tested) have pretty k*k interiors. Cheap plastics.

My 1.8 Elantra might be 5 years old but none of these beat its interior and ride quality.

Wow, I was the total opposite, that interior is awful for me. Guess it's like they say, different strokes for different okes :D
 
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