SA government debt servicing costs exceed budget

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As fears of a sovereign credit rating downgrade resurface, a new report shows the cost of servicing South Africa’s government debt overshot an initial budget by R2.4 billion in 2015/2016.

Downgrade fears have re-emerged after the National Prosecution Authority (NPA) issued a summons for the arrest of finance minister Pravin Gordhan on charges of fraud. Several analysts have long warned that a downgrade could dent investor confidence and lead borrowing and debt-servicing costs.

“The negative impact on investor and business confidence and the sharp fall in the rand mean that the downside risks to SA’s economic performance have risen. If the uncertainty around Minister Gordhan does lead to an investment downgrade, the subsequent rise in borrowing costs for both the public and private sectors will damage both growth and employment prospects,” said Professor Raymond Parsons of the North-West University School of Business and Governance.

The National Treasury’s Debt Management Report for the year to through to March 31 2016, shows government debt service costs amounted to R128.8 billion or 3.2% of GDP.

“This was R2.4 billion higher than initially budgeted, mainly because of rising Treasury bill yields following multiple repo rate hikes by the South African Reserve Bank (Sarb), weakening bond yields and a sharp depreciation of the rand against currencies in which foreign debt is denominated,” Treasury said.

Total government debt 2015/2016

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For the period under review, government’s total net loan debt amounted to R1.8 trillion or 44.3% of GDP. As per International Monetary Fund (IMF) recommendations, net loan debt is calculated by subtracting the cash balances on government’s accounts with the Sarb and private sector banks from total domestic and foreign debt.

As at March 31 2016, the national government’s total cash balance was R178 billion, down from R189.7 billion a year earlier. Of the total cash balance, R112 billion was held in rands and R65.7 billion in foreign currencies, which was equivalent to $7.4 billion.

Treasury said government’s foreign currency commitments totalled $1.7 billion, of which $300 million comprised redemptions of foreign loans, with the remainder relating to interest on loans and departmental commitments. It said the commitments were financed by drawing on cash balances and from interest earned.

Around 93% of government’s total foreign debt is denominated in the US dollar and the euro. Treasury said the weaker exchange rate saw foreign debt as a percentage of total government debt increase by 0.64 percentage points to 10.08%. Government has an internal tolerance level of 10% and a limit of 15%.

“In 2016/17, it is anticipated that there will be upside risks to the foreign debt portfolio, as the rand is expected to depreciate further against currencies in which foreign debt is denominated,” it said.

Ratings agencies have warned that rising government and low economic growth could result in a sovereign rating downgrade.

http://www.moneyweb.co.za/news/economy/sa-government-debt-servicing-costs-exceed-budget/

After reading the above article and noticing that our government has R1.8 trillion in domestic debt and about R200 billion in foreign. What kept popping in my mind is not about how our government is accepting corruption, and how an amount of R30 billion a year lost (stolen by the ANC) due to corruption could be used to pay off the R1.8 trillion. What I am interested to know is who (or which organiations) does the South African government owe R1.8 trillion to domestically? I thought we borrow from IMF and/or the World Bank only?
 
Zimbabwe faced similar problems and last I heard they were doing just dandy.
 
http://www.moneyweb.co.za/news/economy/sa-government-debt-servicing-costs-exceed-budget/

After reading the above article and noticing that our government has R1.8 trillion in domestic debt and about R200 billion in foreign. What kept popping in my mind is not about how our government is accepting corruption, and how an amount of R30 billion a year lost (stolen by the ANC) due to corruption could be used to pay off the R1.8 trillion. What I am interested to know is who (or which organiations) does the South African government owe R1.8 trillion to domestically? I thought we borrow from IMF and/or the World Bank only?

Bonds bonds and more bonds. Bought by investors all over the world.

What is also alarming about that debt is it almost definitely doesn't account for SOE debt and probably not municipal debt either.
 
Zimbabwe faced similar problems and last I heard they were doing just dandy.
I know government auctions off bonds and investors buy them by giving government currency or money. My question is who buys those bonds domestically? Is it normal citizens? Business people? Banks? Is there an information portal (website) to see or be informed who actually buys those bonds? Or better yet, a list of organizations that are owed money?
 
Pension funds, fixed interest investments. Mostly boring so they are seldom in the news headlines, except when things go wrong.

I see. I guess I asked because I thought the South African Reserve Bank is the domestic institution that buys government bonds, and in turn prints money out of nothing to lend it to our government. Then government has to pay back the principle and interest.

That's what happens in the USA, their Federal Reserve Central Bank buys bonds and in turn prints money and loans it to the US treasury department.

I know Canada's bank is owned by Canadians, unlike our Reserve Bank and the Federal Reserve that are privately owned. Canada's Central Bank, from the 1930s until the 1970s, used to print its own money without succumbing to inflation and most importantly interest. But now it's different.

What I'm getting at is if our government can successfully collect taxes and print government bonds, why can't it print its own money so that it doesn't have to pay interest? My worry is that our interest is exponential and therefore we might end up not being able to pay it back. We'll end up with extremely higher taxes.
 
I see. I guess I asked because I thought the South African Reserve Bank is the domestic institution that buys government bonds, and in turn prints money out of nothing to lend it to our government. Then government has to pay back the principle and interest.

That's what happens in the USA, their Federal Reserve Central Bank buys bonds and in turn prints money and loans it to the US treasury department.

I know Canada's bank is owned by Canadians, unlike our Reserve Bank and the Federal Reserve that are privately owned. Canada's Central Bank, from the 1930s until the 1970s, used to print its own money without succumbing to inflation and most importantly interest. But now it's different.

What I'm getting at is if our government can successfully collect taxes and print government bonds, why can't it print its own money so that it doesn't have to pay interest? My worry is that our interest is exponential and therefore we might end up not being able to pay it back. We'll end up with extremely higher taxes.
Didn't Zimbabwe print its own money a few times till their money ended up being worthless?
 
I see. I guess I asked because I thought the South African Reserve Bank is the domestic institution that buys government bonds, and in turn prints money out of nothing to lend it to our government. Then government has to pay back the principle and interest.

That's what happens in the USA, their Federal Reserve Central Bank buys bonds and in turn prints money and loans it to the US treasury department.

I know Canada's bank is owned by Canadians, unlike our Reserve Bank and the Federal Reserve that are privately owned. Canada's Central Bank, from the 1930s until the 1970s, used to print its own money without succumbing to inflation and most importantly interest. But now it's different.

What I'm getting at is if our government can successfully collect taxes and print government bonds, why can't it print its own money so that it doesn't have to pay interest? My worry is that our interest is exponential and therefore we might end up not being able to pay it back. We'll end up with extremely higher taxes.

Not quite! AFAIK the SA Reserve Bank NEVER buys SA government bonds, it is all done on the open market. See: https://www.jse.co.za/trade/debt-market/bonds/government-bonds (SA) and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bond_market (mostly US based discussion).

A discussion of the operation of Reserve Bank(s) is beyond the scope of this forum thread...

In the USA when the Federal Reserve does buy bonds, that is called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantitative_easing
QE is appled in abnormal economic circumstances, when inflation is persistently close to 0% (see Japan as a prime example). That scenario does not currently apply to SA.

Concern about exponential interest rates is valid, but SA is not there (yet)! Look just north of the Limpopo for how that scenario plays out.

Didn't Zimbabwe print its own money a few times till their money ended up being worthless?

Snap, simultaneous post!
 
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As I've said a number of times, Nuclear will fark us, in more ways than one.

If we can't service our current debt levels, there is no way in hell we can service this+nuclear.
 
I see. I guess I asked because I thought the South African Reserve Bank is the domestic institution that buys government bonds, and in turn prints money out of nothing to lend it to our government. Then government has to pay back the principle and interest.

That's what happens in the USA, their Federal Reserve Central Bank buys bonds and in turn prints money and loans it to the US treasury department.

I know Canada's bank is owned by Canadians, unlike our Reserve Bank and the Federal Reserve that are privately owned. Canada's Central Bank, from the 1930s until the 1970s, used to print its own money without succumbing to inflation and most importantly interest. But now it's different.

What I'm getting at is if our government can successfully collect taxes and print government bonds, why can't it print its own money so that it doesn't have to pay interest? My worry is that our interest is exponential and therefore we might end up not being able to pay it back. We'll end up with extremely higher taxes.

You fundamentally misunderstand how money is created and how the reserve bank operates.
 
As I've said a number of times, Nuclear will fark us, in more ways than one.

If we can't service our current debt levels, there is no way in hell we can service this+nuclear.

And we can't service the 75 billion or so needed for free higher education.
And there is the NHI on the cards.
And we are going to run out of gold in 30 years.
And we are going to become a nett food importer due to land claims, etc.

:o
 
And we can't service the 75 billion or so needed for free higher education.
And there is the NHI on the cards.
And we are going to run out of gold in 30 years.
And we are going to become a nett food importer due to land claims, etc.

:o

We have been a nett food importer for quite a few years...
 
As I've said a number of times, Nuclear will fark us, in more ways than one.

If we can't service our current debt levels, there is no way in hell we can service this+nuclear.

The problem is that the nuclear build program is like the arms deal (or worse). It isn't about ensuring security of supply, it is so a select few can get rich off the contracts and they are being egged on by eager suppliers sitting on the sides rubbing their hands in glee. It is obvious that security of supply isn't an immediate threat and government would do better letting the private sector make up the difference. They can build & run the plants more efficiently and deliver on time and budget.
 
The problem is that the nuclear build program is like the arms deal (or worse). It isn't about ensuring security of supply, it is so a select few can get rich off the contracts and they are being egged on by eager suppliers sitting on the sides rubbing their hands in glee. It is obvious that security of supply isn't an immediate threat and government would do better letting the private sector make up the difference. They can build & run the plants more efficiently and deliver on time and budget.

Would you agree with a nuclear solution by a private sector partner (say Rostatom sets up a reactor here and sells energy as an IPP).
 
They can build & run the plants more efficiently and deliver on time and budget.
Delivering on time and budget is highly unlikely. Evidence suggests that private enterprise is not inherently more efficiently run either.
 
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