SAInet - Who / what

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I just saw these guys advertising on myadsl and they are offering 1Gb for R49 p/m

It does not say exlcuding tax either... They have a 2Gb option for R79 p/m which is R9 more than I pay WebAfrica for 1Gb....

To good to be true?

Has anyone used them?
http://www.sainet.co.za/homedsl.htm

They also offer packages with the line rental included.
 
The ydo seem to good to be true. What I don't see is who their provider is, SAIX or IS? Also no mention of shaped or unshaped. Don't trust the lack of info.
 
Has yesterday's thread been removed? I asked those questions and can't find the thread again.
 
I think the truth lies here:

<removed for privacy>
4 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms ge0-0.br1.jnb6.alter.net [196.30.156.41]
5 9 ms 11 ms 13 ms other-side.atm6-0sub1.br1.jnb6.alter.net [196.31
.39.53]
6 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms 196.43.25.137
7 47 ms 45 ms 44 ms 196.43.24.42
8 261 ms 207 ms 305 ms sainet-internet-gw.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.25.12
8.182]
9 383 ms 421 ms * ns1.sainet.co.za [196.15.208.140]

If they're using their own bandwidth, it's gonna be sloooooow.
 
JayM said:
I think the truth lies here:

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4 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms ge0-0.br1.jnb6.alter.net [196.30.156.41]
5 9 ms 11 ms 13 ms other-side.atm6-0sub1.br1.jnb6.alter.net [196.31
.39.53]
6 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms 196.43.25.137
7 47 ms 45 ms 44 ms 196.43.24.42
8 261 ms 207 ms 305 ms sainet-internet-gw.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.25.12
8.182]
9 383 ms 421 ms * ns1.sainet.co.za [196.15.208.140]

If they're using their own bandwidth, it's gonna be sloooooow.
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please decipher the above....in an easy to understand conclusion for the layman...:)

their deals do seem tooo good. i called them and still waiting for them to call back as the ONE sales lady was busy on a call
 
Mams said:
please decipher the above....in an easy to understand conclusion for the layman...:)

their deals do seem tooo good. i called them and still waiting for them to call back as the ONE sales lady was busy on a call
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It appears that their Internet connection to SAIX is completely saturated...
 
They called me back - seems professional....cant say for sure..
They using SAIX
And those rates are on 12 months contracts
if u want month to month its R10 more = still a good deal > R89 for 2gb and the all inclusive seems really good > R290 including line rental and 2gb so effectively R45 for the 2gb !

Now only question is: how good is their service?
 
I am happy with shaped so that price is still good...

do they roll over bandwidth like Web Africa..

If they do then they have a new customer else no... I refuse to lose bandwidth every month or act like a child and try and download everything on the last day to cap myself.
 
To this day I fail to understand why the bandwidth providers cannot see that allowing people to carry over their bandwidth is likely to lessen the strain on the network
 
Jongi said:
To this day I fail to understand why the bandwidth providers cannot see that allowing people to carry over their bandwidth is likely to lessen the strain on the network
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Bacause that will allow people to use ALL their bandwidth, and therefore take away profits.
 
Jongi said:
To this day I fail to understand why the bandwidth providers cannot see that allowing people to carry over their bandwidth is likely to lessen the strain on the network
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Yep, that's how the quota system operates at my work. No run for bandwidth at the end of the month, and no saturated line.
 
MFour said:
Bacause that will allow people to use ALL their bandwidth, and therefore take away profits.
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Cell phone companies don't seem to have taken a profit hit when they introduced the ability to roll unused free minutes.
 
True, but I think (might be wrong) fixed line ISP's work on a tighter margin. Also remember how it works:

I buy a 3GB package from ISP A.
ISP A buys their bandwidth from Telkom / IS / Verizon, etc.
I pay a set fee for a 3GB package, lets say R 220.00 / month.
ISP A pays their provider (Telkom / IS, etc) for their total bandwidth used per month, for their whole client base.

If I only use 2GB of my 3GB package, that in turn means ISP A will pay their provider only the for the 2GB that I used, and not for 3GB, although I have already paid for a full 3GB. This in fact means that ISP A has gained the fee for 1GB from me, and can use it as they see fit, not having to pay their provider for it.

Remember that Telkom changed the way they charge the ISPs a whilst back, moving to a pay per GB system.

TelkomInternet is relying on this system (or so they say) to allow them to do softcapping. So my 1GB I don't use with TelkomInternet will be used by someone using 1GB over their limit, so TelkomInternet is not loosing money, but are giving what was paid for, although it was paid be me and not the other guy (although I doubt that it is so cut and dry).

If that makes sense at all. So you allow your clients to carry their bandwidth over to the next month, i.e. give them a chance to use ALL they paid for, and I guess their pricing for the "uncapped" packages will go up as well.
 
Wholesale Price

Who knows what the w/sale price is for SAIX per gig? I am sure it must be higher than what Sainet is quoting. If not, then the other ISP are making a very nice profit. I believe that these prices are VAT inclusive which makes it very good. It is a bit strange that they do not stipulate if they are shaped or unshaped.

My only guess on these good prices are (apart from being bogus) are that they are of the opinion that the prices would come down at such a rate in the next 12 months that they would subsidise the first couple of months and make the profit at the end of the 12 month - or beyond.

I hope my theory is correct:D
 
Guys, I subscribed, SAinet does the following - They self authenticate, use SAIX bandwidth - good speed, good service. Prices includes VAT.
 
checkblog do they allow bandwidth to roll over or is it lost at the end of the month?

Can you do a tracert to google for us on the network and show the results... It is still looking good
 
Ok so I mailed them and asked a few questions on the TrioRed package and this was the reply:

1. The "Access Only" price they have listed is the cost for 3Gig International cap should you not wish to take a "One Price" package. That equates to R46 per gig. Not bad!!!!

2. They charge you an "connection fee" of R99 on first time setup. Effectively you'll "make this money back/break even" after purchasing 7 gigs or over 2.something months. I based this on my current cost of R60/gig through Axxess. (R99/R14 (saving) = 7)

3. The "One Price" DOES NOT include the telephone line rental as the "One Price Including Line Rental" tends to imply. It's only the DSL portion plus the cap.

4. The cap DOES NOT get rolled over from month-to-month. That is being offered at a later stage.

5. The "One Price" package can only be taken with signing a 12 month contract.

All in all I think the pricing is brilliant!! R40 saving per month for me and I'll therefore be jumping ship....Bye Bye Axxess :D

EDIT: Forgot to mention that if you're on the "One Price" package you can purchase additional cap at R59/Gig.
 
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