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simple question, would it help my latency if i get direct statellite connection ? Is there any out there that uses satelite connection for wow ?

Im just fedup at playing on high latency's

What would you say are my best option (not cheapest) to get the lowest latency possible?
 
AFAIK using satellite will definitely ADD to latency. Ever tried talking to someone overseas...?
 
Is uses SAT hence the 1600ms pings to europe... The fastest theoretical ping to europe is 175 odd over fibre..
 
Just keep in mind that the satellite is around 40 000 km from earth so your signal needs to travel roughly 80 000 km, hence higher lantency, where SAT3 is around 12 000km in length
 
Darthmoose said:
Just keep in mind that the satellite is around 40 000 km from earth so your signal needs to travel roughly 80 000 km, hence higher lantency, where SAT3 is around 12 000km in length
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BTW in reality both of these signals travel at the speed of light, so 12 000 km or 80 000 km takes under 1ms to travel :p the pings typicaly originate due to signal losses (more signal is lost due to the entering and exiting of the atmosphere). So the packets are send to the source till it gets confirmation that it have been recieved, if this takes to long it times out. Atleast this is how I understand it, could be nice to get another explenation from a IT expert.
 
werries2 said:
BTW in reality both of these signals travel at the speed of light, so 12 000 km or 80 000 km takes under 1ms to travel :p the pings typicaly originate due to signal losses (more signal is lost due to the entering and exiting of the atmosphere). So the packets are send to the source till it gets confirmation that it have been recieved, if this takes to long it times out. Atleast this is how I understand it, could be nice to get another explenation from a IT expert.
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Yes they do, but over copper signals travel at 2/3 speed of light. Fibre is different, but here in ZA we are plagued with copper.
 
Darthmoose said:
Yes they do, but over copper signals travel at 2/3 speed of light. Fibre is different, but here in ZA we are plagued with copper.
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Ok I have to admit I only did the calculations in my head :p
The speed of light is 299,792,458 meters per second
thus 299.792 km/ms
this would give 50 ms travel time for 15 000 km
and 133 ms for 40 000 km

Also found this interesting piece on the internet

The Internet operates at near light speed, which on a planet the size of Earch often practically amounts to near real-time.

Digital information such as Internet packets travel at 2/3 of the speed of light on copper wire and on fiber optic cables. Since light speed is about 300,000 kilometers a second, this means digital communications travel at about 200,000 kilometers a second, slowing down only because because copper and fiber optic materials are about one-third thicker than a vacuum.

At this speed and neglecting switching delays, two computers have to be more than ten thousand kilometers apart, or almost half way around the world, before they experience a tenth of a second in communications delay.

With fixed near-optimal transmission speed, there are only two ways to make Internet networks faster -- increase the number of bits that are traveling at once down the connection, or increase the speed at which you switch them from one connection to another at the junction points.

Internet routers are getting faster and faster with switching speeds nearing instantaneous, while fiber optics and wireless technologies are enabling networks to send much larger numbers of bits at once. The Internet is getting even faster.
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Thus what I understand from this is that yes as you said it is about 2/3 the speed of light, but Copper and Fibers have the same travel time. Fibre is only better in that you can send more data on them. (that is A LOT more!) Latency or Pings however will be the same with either, and will be slowed down due to switching and the actual travel distance.
 
So @ 200000 Kilometres a second it would take:

24000/200000 = 0.12 of a second to travel the full length of SAT3 and back, without the junctions and other delays.

As 1000ms is a second that would be 120ms.

:( DAM, I guess I will never headshot some Chinaman in CS :p as they are much further away.


Maybe they should start researching GAMMA rays as a means of communication :D

I hear those travel vast distances in space from exploding stars and still reach Earth, there was a story once on how people believed their instruments were first picking up nuclear explosions from Russia, and then when that was disproved...some kind of war between Aliens from far outer-space LOL :)

I wonder how fast a GAMMA ray travels and if one can be made without the explosion ??? sorry just thinking out loud here
 
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"Astronomers have theorized that gamma ray bursts might travel in association with gravity wave bursts. In the course of their flight through space, gamma rays would be deflected by gravitational fields and would be scattered by dust and cosmic ray particles they encountered, so they would be expected to travel slightly slower than their associated gravity wave burst which would pass through space unimpeded. After a 45,000 year light-speed journey, a gamma ray burst arrival delay of 44.6 hours would not be unexpected."

Are they saying it could take 44.6 hours for a GAMMA ray to reach us when the same distance would take light 45000 years???

Maybe Im onto something here lol
 
Jonny Two Shoes said:
"Astronomers have theorized that gamma ray bursts might travel in association with gravity wave bursts. In the course of their flight through space, gamma rays would be deflected by gravitational fields and would be scattered by dust and cosmic ray particles they encountered, so they would be expected to travel slightly slower than their associated gravity wave burst which would pass through space unimpeded. After a 45,000 year light-speed journey, a gamma ray burst arrival delay of 44.6 hours would not be unexpected."

Are they saying it could take 44.6 hours for a GAMMA ray to reach us when the same distance would take light 45000 years???

Maybe Im onto something here lol
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Source?
 
"Experiments carried out by Eugene Podkletnov show that a shock front outburst produces a longitudinal gravitational wave that travels forward with the burst. He has found that this gravity wave pulse has a speed in excess of 64 times the speed of light (personal communication)."

From the same source.

I reckon Gravity Wave Burst is another competitor then :)
 
"In Gamma Ray Bursts and CETI, I discuss the possibility that GRBs could be Communication by Extra-Terrestrial Intelligences using gamma-ray laser signals focussed by THE SUN AS A GRAVITATIONAL LENS:"

ROFL! :D

Source: http://www.valdostamuseum.org/hamsmith/GRB.html

"The UFOs communicate through gamma-rays. Scinetists are now finding the first clues to the puzzle of stealth communication between advanced extraterrestrial civilizations. These gamma-rays can also allow UFOs to communicate when they vist the earth."

HA HA HA :)

Source: http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/12199.asp
 
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Unfortunatly gama-rays also travel at the speed of light, although they travel faster than light in denser mediums i.e. optical fibres, but really not that much faster :D

Lets rather build a network that works on the speed of Darkness! As they say, darkness is faster then light, as it is always first there! And with all our power cuts in SA we should have plenty of darkness to support our network ! :D
 
werries2 said:
Unfortunatly gama-rays also travel at the speed of light, although they travel faster than light in denser mediums i.e. optical fibres, but really not that much faster :D

Lets rather build a network that works on the speed of Darkness! As they say, darkness is faster then light, as it is always first there! And with all our power cuts in SA we should have plenty of darkness to support our network ! :D
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But this other guy says Gravity Wave Bursts can be 64 times the speed of light :)

We have instruments that can receive these signals but none that can make them :( So half the job is done already. LOL im just talking shyte btw :p

Just a question, when they talk about the speed of light...are they referring to a certain spectrum or wavelength??? Red light has shorter wavelengths than blue but do they travel the same speed???? I don't know if Im being dumb here but just thought of it.


---Oh and another advantage to GAMMA rays are that they can travel through the Earth instead of around it, and by going through it then it travels faster...therefore much much better international latency and no more junctions.
 
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AHA!! :) and if it were possible then Earth would need only one main base station as the GAMMA rays spread soooooo far. No more nationwide deployment lol...just one base station sitting somewhere pretty central :D global coverage..cellphones, internet and the like
 
Jonny Two Shoes said:
AHA!! :) and if it were possible then Earth would need only one main base station as the GAMMA rays spread soooooo far. No more nationwide deployment lol...just one base station sitting somewhere pretty central :D global coverage..cellphones, internet and the like
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Just don't let telkom try and run and maintain it
 
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