Pirate Bay Trial Verdict Expected Today!

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Faces $14.3 million in copyright damages claim from the entertainment industry and charges of “facilitating for other people to make available a copyright protected work via transmission on the Internet” from Swedish authorities.

Today we finally get to find out once and for all if public BitTorrent tracker site The Pirate Bay is illegal in Sweden.

No matter the verdict the case is sure to go straight to appeal afterwards, but nonetheless it’ll be an interesting test of whether public BitTorrent tracker sites like The Pirate Bay are legal or not in that country.

The four founders of The Pirate Bay, Hans Fredrik Neij, Gottfrid Svartholm Warg, Peter Sunde, and Carl Lundströmface, each face up to one year in prison and fines as high as $180,000.

In addition, the entertainment industry is seeking over $14.3 million USD in compensatory damages.

In a post on The Pirate Bay blog, Sunde says they’ll be holding a small press conference afterwards for those interested in hearing their thoughts on the outcome.
He writes:

On friday we will get the verdict in the ongoing trial. It will not be the final decision, only the first before the losing party will appeal. It will have no real effect on anything besides setting the tone for the debate, so we hope we win of course.

Since a lot of people and press are really interested in the outcome of this part of the spectrial, we’ve decided to hold a small press conference on friday at 13.00 swedish time (GMT+1 / CET). It will be held on Bambuser, no-one is invited physically to participate, only digitally.

The URL for the Bambuser-stream will be posted on the front page of the site on friday some minutes before 13. If you’re from the press or just interested in hearing our thoughts about the outcome, you are welcome to join the stream and chat.
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I must say I’m pretty excited to hear what the verdict is. I’m hoping, of course, that they win for I can think of no greater “FU” to the entertainment industry than for The Pirate Bay to be acquitted for copyright infringement.

But, even if The Pirate Bay loses we still win in the long run, because as history has proven over and over again, technology always prevails in the end.

Speaking of history, it seems some people in the Swedish govt also find the case of particular importance to the public.

For according to an AP story this morning, one of the servers seized by Swedish police last year as part of the case against The Pirate Bay was bought by Sweden’s National Museum of Science and Technology from The Pirate Bay for 2,000 kronor ($243 USD) to be included in a display of inventions that “impact people’s lives.”

“The museum says making copies of copyright-protected material is nothing new and that music tapes were also controversial in the 1970s,” reads the article.

So who do you think will win the case and why?
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Eish, I was wondering when the goverments all over were gonna take some action against sites like those.

Personally I have no prob with these type of sites, however they dont cost me revenue :P

There will be a lot of angry people from the film etc. industry if Pirate Bay wins
 
Nothing can happen to them. Limewire went through the same, and came out unscratched on the other side.
 
Guilty - :(( 1 year each. TPB lives on tho. I don't expect the verdict to stand up to appeal.
 
The Pirate Bay Trial: The Official Verdict - Guilty

http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-trial-the-verdict-090417/

Just minutes ago the verdict in the case of The Pirate Bay Four was announced. All four defendants were accused of ‘assisting in making copyright content available’. Peter Sunde: Guilty. Fredrik Neij: Guilty. Gottfrid Svartholm: Guilty. Carl Lundström: Guilty. All receive 1 year in jail.

While only a few weeks ago, it seems like an eternity since the trial of The Pirate Bay Four ended and the court retired to consider its verdict. The prosecution claimed that the four defendants were ‘assisting in making copyright content available’ and demanded millions of dollars in damages. The defense did not agree, and all pleaded not guilty - backed up by the inimitable King Kong defense.

Today, Friday April 17, the court issued its decision. Here are the main points relating to each defendant (continually updated live);

brokep
Peter Sunde (born September 13, 1978) alias ‘brokep’:
Verdict: Guilty - 1 year in prison

TiAMO
Fredrik Neij (born April 27, 1978) alias ‘TiAMO’:
Verdict: Guilty - 1 year in prison

Anakata
Gottfrid Svartholm (October 17, 1984) alias ‘Anakata’:
Verdict: Guilty - 1 year in prison

Carl Lundstrom
Carl Lundström (born April 13, 1960)
Verdict: Guilty - 1 year in prison

The court said that the four defendants worked as a team, were aware that copyrighted material was being shared using The Pirate Bay and that they made it easy and assisted the infringements. It categorized the infringements as ’severe’. The judge said that the users of The Pirate Bay committed the first offense by sharing files and the four assisted this.

While the court did not agree with the plaintiff’s estimates of losses (around $12m), it still set the damages at 30 million SEK ($3,620,000). This a hugely significant amount and the court has ordered that the four should pay this amount between them.

The judge also stated that the usage of BitTorrent at The Pirate Bay is illegal. Rest assured, other torrent sites hosted in Sweden will be keeping a close eye on developments.

At one point the judge was asked if he was concerned for his personal safety after handing down this decision. The judge said he hadn’t received any harassment and was quite surprised at the question.

Peter Sunde has already explained that this decision does not mean the end of the line in this case. There will be an appeal which means we are still far away from the ultimate decision - possibly years away.

As for the fate of the site, Peter has already promised that The Pirate Bay will continue. The site itself was never on trial, only the four individuals listed above.

This is a breaking news story, please check back frequently for updates.
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Massive miscarriage of justice here. The prosecution completely failed to prove this. The judge is either on the take or facing political pressure.

I'm not arguing the political merits of the case, just the fact that legally the prosecution failed to prove anything.
 
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http://www.ioltechnology.co.za/article_page.php?iArticleId=4940087

Pirate Bay Swedes convicted
17 April 2009 at 11h34


Stockholm - A Swedish court has convicted four men linked to the popular Pirate Bay file-sharing site of breaking Sweden's copyright law.

The Stockholm district court sentenced Gottfrid Svartholm Warg, Peter Sunde, Fredrik Neij, and Carl Lundstrom to one year each in prison.

They were also ordered to pay damages of 30 million kronor (R32 million) to a series of entertainment companies, including Warner Bros, Sony Music Entertainment, EMI and Columbia Pictures.

The Pirate Bay provides a forum for its estimated 22 million users to freely download music, movies and computer games through so-called torrent files. The site has become the entertainment industry's enemy No. 1 after successful court actions against file-swapping sites such as Grokster and Kazaa. - Sapa-AP
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killadoob said:
Yup their argument of we don't host the illegal files has failed badly. They where always going to lose because their argument is stupid.
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Uhh...but google doesn't host the files either. pirate bay is a search engine, just like google.

Google is the biggest Piracy Engine then. we might as well take the whole internet down....
 
Stupid decision. The judge confused the technical aspects of the trial with the political and corporate motivations. No matter how you feel about the file sharing and the copyright issues it does not change the technical details.
 
Keeper said:
Uhh...but google doesn't host the files either. pirate bay is a search engine, just like google.

Google is the biggest Piracy Engine then. we might as well take the whole internet down....
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Well no i don't with that, you cannot download host files for pirated goods directly from google can you? I have never seen a torrent or nzb file hosted by google.com.

So no it is far from the same. Who knows google may be taken to court and ordered not to link people to sites like that from now on, as you are correct in a sense but in no way does google give you files needed to pirate.

Gary the technical details are very simple, not rocket science to see why they have been found guilty, this though is a very bad thing for piracy world and will lead to many more sites going down. Mininova could be next, nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo not my mininova :(. OMW they could target the nzb sites and servers, noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo not my giganews.
 
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Grr.. this judge is so narrow minded. If theres one thing I hate about the legal system is the narrow mindedness of stupid laws.
 
well you can't download without a Torrent Client either so should the software be banned as well?

You need windows too, a DVD Drive or Deamon Tools. how about winamp?

it's not the software/sites that are illegal, it's the people hosting them.

yes trackers link you to the files, but google links you to the html page containing the tracker.
 
Why a DVD drive can be used for tons of stuff, Torrent clients are of course to blame. Winamp plays mp3's that could easily be from your legit collection. My point though is after this ruling they can go after the torrent clients, nzb's. Basically anything linked and promoting piracy can be targeted. Telling yourself a piratebay type website is the same as dvd rom and winamp seems naive keeper. Google gives you links to the internet, how people use that is not up to google, piratebay is only around for one reason to promote piracy. why else do people go to the piratebay? Why did they call it piratebay? That alone does not help their case, going in and trying to get off promoting piracy is one thing but when your website's name is the piratebay well now your already screwed.

What use do torrents and nzb's have? Sure you get 1% of all torrents that are legal but we know torrents and nzb's are your main source of distributing piracy. Now nothing will stop them. I think if you look at it clearly you know that sites that host pirate files are the source. Only deluding yourself if you think otherwise.

while i am not happy with the decision because now they can target anybody by the look of it, at the same time i understand how the verdict went this way. Piratebay saying they do not promote piracy is just really funny and could become the butt of many jokes to come.
 
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really, winamp is used mostly for legal mp3's?

Only deluding myself? please, don't flatter yourself.

This verdict is bollocks, I don't know how you can "understand it", because according to the judge, Media Players like "popcorn hour" should be banned as well, and 2TB Hard Drives too, according to this judge, as they are used for piracy.

Even DVD Players supporting DivX should now in theory be banned, because DivX = Piracy, right?

C'mon Killa - this is like saying Ski-Masks should be banned because people use them for hi-jacking/robbing banks.

it's not the Ski-Mask company, it's the people.
 
Yes but keeper how do they go about attacking piracy? They need to stop it from the source. Stopping sites like the piratebay will stop the users or am i mistaken? they can now without doubt go after any website on the net and that is not cool i think :p, but i am looking at this from their perspective and not the pirater that i am.

What else is the purpose of a website like the piratebay?

winamp is used for alot of legit music, ski masks are worn for cold countries and resorts?

We both know winamp is an mp3 player, illegal or legal but lots use it for legal purpose's, how many people use thepiratbay for legal goods? Please just answer my question keeper.

what does the pirate bay offer other than promoting piracy? Does it serve any other purpose other than piracy? How do you go about defending your website when the only thing offered is piracy. How do you argue a case like this? simple question, would love to hear the answers for this as well.

Anyone got an answer as to what the use of the piratebay is?
 
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This is not good news for the local NC and bitfarm sites.
NC was allowed to get going again through a loophole in that legislation, or something to that effect. The lawyer involved used the Pirate Bay case as reference. Well looks like they are screwed now.
 
Anyone know how to defend a website in a piracy case that has only one purpose, how do you argue? What is your angle?

Any good lawyers here care to give me their idea's as to how you would argue this case and think you have a chance of winning it?
 
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