Would You Have an MTN Aerial on Your Roof?

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MTN is looking for sites to erect antennas in Constantia and Clifton (Cape Town). These antennas will not be big base stations but will look like TV antennas and DSTV dishes. MTN will pay a rental fee to the home/property owner. Would you go for this pitch? Even if you do not know what the future health risks may be? You could pull in a couple of grand a month. This would be a great addition to any body corporate or school desperate for funds. When the jury is still out on the future health repercussions, do you err on the side of caution or risk it for the money and of course a better cell phone signal?
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http://www.capetalk.co.za/onair/heardonair/heardonair.asp
 
I've seen two churches in Joburg grow from a little building to a massive complex - one on the N1 between willem Nicol and Hans Stydom

If only telkom would pay me for having their pole on my property
 
We choose one school over another for our children solely based on the presence of a large cellular base station on the school property. If base stations affect plant material life then I am sure they affect human tissue as well. Dont want to be alarmist but why take the risk?
 
Well you could go work in an asbestos mine or have drugs tested on you or go work in a nuclear arms dump. you will be pulling in the money but in a few years time when your kids are born deformed and you have developed lymph cancer you wont be so stoked.

Personally Im not gonna get my brain cooked for a few thousand a month
 
victorlebza said:
The health risks are way too high. Don't do it people. I've seen people turning green on Special Assignment. this is serious.
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There was no proof it was due to the base station nearby. It was like saying, I got cancer because the Koreans did an underground nuclear test.

Personally I want to stay right next to a base station. This will ensure that my own phone transmits 100 times less power during phone calls due to a good radio link. The biggest risk is your phone, not the base station. The signal reaching you from a base station, even at a few 10's of meters away is orders of magnitude less than what you are exposed to during a phone call from your own phone held against your head. And for THAT, there is no conclusive, laboratory repeatable evidence yet that it is a health risk.

How many complaints have there been about nearby high power UHF TV transmitters? These typically transmit anything from 10 kiloWatt (a cellular base station is about 40 W) to 500 MW and their frequencies can reach up to 800 MHz (GSM is 900 MHz).

Bring on those towers :D
 
That comment about Special Assignment just shows how powerful the media influence is!
 
dotcat said:
Well you could go work in an asbestos mine or have drugs tested on you or go work in a nuclear arms dump. you will be pulling in the money but in a few years time when your kids are born deformed and you have developed lymph cancer you wont be so stoked.

Personally Im not gonna get my brain cooked for a few thousand a month
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Do you use a cell phone?
 
3G are 2.1GHz. Water resonates at 2.4GHz. This is the frequency your microwave is using to cook food.

Bluetooth and a lot off devices use 2.4GHz because 2.4GHz doesn’t need to be licensed because the signal is absorb by water, like your brain, body etc. At least the power isn’t 600W like a microwave!

The debate was on when GSM was using 800MHz, but now we are getting close to the frequency of microwave ovens and we put it right next to our brain.

:-)
 
ajax said:
There was no proof it was due to the base station nearby. It was like saying, I got cancer because the Koreans did an underground nuclear test.

Personally I want to stay right next to a base station. This will ensure that my own phone transmits 100 times less power during phone calls due to a good radio link. The biggest risk is your phone, not the base station. The signal reaching you from a base station, even at a few 10's of meters away is orders of magnitude less than what you are exposed to during a phone call from your own phone held against your head. And for THAT, there is no conclusive, laboratory repeatable evidence yet that it is a health risk.

How many complaints have there been about nearby high power UHF TV transmitters? These typically transmit anything from 10 kiloWatt (a cellular base station is about 40 W) to 500 MW and their frequencies can reach up to 800 MHz (GSM is 900 MHz).

Bring on those towers :D
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there was also no "proof" 50 years ago that smoking causes cancer. ignorance is bliss isn't it ajax?
 
simple_simon said:
there was also no "proof" 50 years ago that smoking causes cancer. ignorance is bliss isn't it ajax?
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I hear what you are saying, Simon, my point is if there's no conclusive evidence yet that speaking on your phone is hazardous, then the tower's signals which are a LOT weaker is highly unlikely to be hazardous.
 
ajax said:
I hear what you are saying, Simon, my point is if there's no conclusive evidence yet that speaking on your phone is hazardous, then the tower's signals which are a LOT weaker is highly unlikely to be hazardous.
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here's a simple muscle test that can be made to show the effect of cellphone radiation.

-stand up and stick any arm out (sideways), make sure you have taken your cell phone and placed it a couple of metres away from your body.
-now get someone to push with an even pressure downwards on your outstreched arm and you must resist, in otherwords you push upwards....do this for about 2-3 seconds....you will then gage your strength.
-next step is to repeat this process while holding your cellphone....you will notice a significant difference in your ability to resist....your strength will weaken.

now if a cellphone is doing this to you, imagine what a cellphone tower is doing to you constantly....damaging your DNA and cells...leaving you more susceptable to disease
 
simple_simon said:
here's a simple muscle test that can be made to show the effect of cellphone radiation.

-stand up and stick any arm out (sideways), make sure you have taken your cell phone and placed it a couple of metres away from your body.
-now get someone to push with an even pressure downwards on your outstreched arm and you must resist, in otherwords you push upwards....do this for about 2-3 seconds....you will then gage your strength.
-next step is to repeat this process while holding your cellphone....you will notice a significant difference in your ability to resist....your strength will weaken.

now if a cellphone is doing this to you, imagine what a cellphone tower is doing to you constantly....damaging your DNA and cells...leaving you more susceptable to disease
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Yes, I've heard of that one. Try this, ask someone to help you do the test 5 times. Ask someone to take out the phone's battery 1 of the 5 times without you knowing.
 
ajax said:
Yes, I've heard of that one. Try this, ask someone to help you do the test 5 times. Ask someone to take out the phone's battery 1 of the 5 times without you knowing.
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LOL..... Yup and the result is the same.
 
I speak under correction, but I'm guessing that this holding the cellphone test, could be more an indication of how your arm strength is affected by *holding* something/anything as opposed to specifically holding a cellphone.

i.e. If u held a lump of cheese in your hand while doing the 'test', we might come to the conclusion that cheese weakens the body...
 
ryan411 said:
I speak under correction, but I'm guessing that this holding the cellphone test, could be more an indication of how your arm strength is affected by *holding* something/anything as opposed to specifically holding a cellphone.

i.e. If u held a lump of cheese in your hand while doing the 'test', we might come to the conclusion that cheese weakens the body...
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now you're on the right track. the cheese situation would reflect your bodies ability to process cheese, which could be differnt to someone elses

the whole cellphone arm thing comes from muscle testing...its about determing how your body reacts to certain energies. its a quick way to determine whether or not you can handle certain foods etc.

in this case it was used for cellphones
 
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