SA IT industry short of skills - trainer

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"There are just not enough young adults coming out of school with the ability to move on into the tertiary level and undertake IT, engineering or science-focused degrees or diplomas."
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Finding suitable candidates to train and then holding onto them once they get a bit of experience has got to be one of the biggest challenges facing an IT shop at the moment.
 
Maybe if they payd the ppl right. and give some lekker benefits. The IT people wouldn't be bouncing from company to company.
 
Well .. duh .. if there were enough people [read as too many] .. then this would not be a problem.
Seems the governmint wants to saturate the industry.
A - LA - India.
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Napalm said:
Maybe if they payd the ppl right. and give some lekker benefits. The IT people wouldn't be bouncing from company to company.
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Salary, benefits, working conditions. These are the basic things that SA companies get wrong time and time again and somehow never realize why their employees look for better opportunities.
 
icyrus said:
Salary, benefits, working conditions. These are the basic things that SA companies get wrong time and time again and somehow never realize why their employees look for better opportunities.
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Especially working conditions. It doesn't matter what you pay a guy, if you constantly treat him like ****, he'll eventually leave.
 
icyrus said:
Salary, benefits, working conditions. These are the basic things that SA companies get wrong time and time again and somehow never realize why their employees look for better opportunities.
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There's one more. SA IT companies do not get enough say in they way their clients projects and infrastructure is run/managed (and unfortunately they don't care anyway). The mindsets of most IT companies are completely screwed up - they're in it for the fast buck they can make today instead of thinking of building a long term relationship with the client. This leaves the staff stuck with constantly plugging holes and applying plasters due to rash decisions instead of getting a chance to be creative.

The end result, staff bounce around looking for a better working environment, the IT company lose their contract eventually and the next company hired by the client start knee deep in the dwang trying to sort out their predecessors mess. I may seem cynical but I'm hearing and seeing this happen too often.

There is a better way - 37 Signals is great example of this.
 
martin said:
There's one more. SA IT companies do not get enough say in they way their clients projects and infrastructure is run/managed (and unfortunately they don't care anyway). The mindsets of most IT companies are completely screwed up - they're in it for the fast buck they can make today instead of thinking of building a long term relationship with the client. This leaves the staff stuck with constantly plugging holes and applying plasters due to rash decisions instead of getting a chance to be creative.

The end result, staff bounce around looking for a better working environment, the IT company lose their contract eventually and the next company hired by the client start knee deep in the dwang trying to sort out their predecessors mess. I may seem cynical but I'm hearing and seeing this happen too often.

There is a better way - 37 Signals is great example of this.
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I understand exactly what you mean but I had considered it part of working conditions. I see a lot of places that either don't know what a spec is or are completely obsessed with killing an entire rain-forest to create a soon-out-dated spec without any regard for current conditions in the field.

I find these problems generally to be related to bad management and decisions from above hence why I consider them to be part of working conditions.
 
icyrus said:
I understand exactly what you mean but I had considered it part of working conditions. I see a lot of places that either don't know what a spec is or are completely obsessed with killing an entire rain-forest to create a soon-out-dated spec without any regard for current conditions in the field.

I find these problems generally to be related to bad management and decisions from above hence why I consider them to be part of working conditions.
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It does fall under working conditions, I think I just needed to get it off my chest :). I guess I'm just afraid that people think that providing their staff with the latest laptop or a comfy chair would be considered good working conditions when it's so far removed from the truth.
 
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