Mutilated body found of missing Durban graduate who told family she was going for drinks after work

konfab said:
Actually it is. South Africa is a wonderful place to be a criminal due to the criminal organisation called the ANC running the place. The minister of police is a criminal.



https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/opi...ls-toothless-criminal-justice-administration/

You can start by voting for people who won't put criminals in charge of anything. That would make a good start. From there on you can do things like what El Salvador is doing, which is building f__koff huge prions and throwing criminals in prison and throwing away the key. That would also be a good start.
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Another really disturbing crime and I think you are correct. I would like to think that many/most/some (?) of the police and justice system are decent people at heart, misled and misdirected by their ANC cadre "leadership" aka mafia bosses like Cele et al. A change at the top would, hopefully, encourage or whip the rank and file into line. Ever hopeful I am.
 
Oldfut said:
Another really disturbing crime and I think you are correct. I would like to think that many/most/some (?) of the police and justice system are decent people at heart, misled and misdirected by their ANC cadre "leadership" aka mafia bosses like Cele et al. A change at the top would, hopefully, encourage or whip the rank and file into line. Ever hopeful I am.
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There are a lot of really good people in the SAPS and NPA. Problem is there is a cadre of evil at the top.

Ian Cameron gave an example, where the police arrested a notable hitman, but he was released again after a quick phone call from a general up high.
 
Too many chiefs not enough indians and many of the chiefs have no real policing experience. I posted earlier how someone became a Maj General responsible for sector policing after 11 years joining the SAPS as media spokesperson holding only a degree in public relations and zero police qualification
 
TheChamp said:
I know you will find it hard to believe but this is not the kind of problem you fix through voting.
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Well, the previous regime had a political solution they used to call separate development, but the world didn't like it.

Luckily, now we all subject to the same k@k, we have a responsible government not involved in corruption themselves, actively working very hard figthing crime (lol!) in order to solve the 520 murders per week.

WaxLyrical said:
Murders such as these happen throughout the world, with even a more stringent rule of law.
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Of course, but look at where we rank in terms of the numbers, the only thing where we're consistently performing at the top ..

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TheChamp said:
I know you will find it hard to believe but this is not the kind of problem you fix through voting.
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How do you propose it gets fixed? Missing body parts? Sangoma's? who still push stupid asinine archaic beliefs. Should they get eradicated. Ask this **** government nicely to get rid of ballsack Cele and do something about the useless SAP? Where do we begin.
 
skimread said:
What does going to drinks after work mean? It means going to a shebeen most likely. Those places are violent cesspools but ANC created a culture of drinking in SA. Both whites and Blacks love this culture. Solution is simple. Ban Alcohol.But you can't. This is South African culture. Secondary effects is also a problem. The culture of influencing people to lock up after 6 in the evening. Hiding behind walls makes the only thing that matters is money hence more people become corrupt as there is no social cohesion.


Rape and murder is seen as not a crime unless you are caught, tried and convicted. The ANC has turned forensics into a joke that it might as well not exists. The result is the people like @TheChamp and government see you need CCTV proof as the only proof of a crime. Only when you have CCTV of the whole crime like Maselpoort will it be seen as crime. Just look at the ANC PEC who raped his twin daughters. That case was shoved under the carpet because he posts weekly photos on Facebook of himself in ANC clothing. The public loves him because he passed money along the chain like all ANC cadres do and the even carry him on their shoulder out of the court house knowing the case is dead.
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At the end of the day it is the cANCer and all they stand for that has reduced this country to what it is no matter how hard any cANCer apologist tries to defend them, they are greedy vile fat slobbering pigs that cannot get enough so screw the country. They are like commies, party above state, cadres above citizens. They are vile kunts.
 
Increase in crime is directly related to poor, incompetent and corrupt governance. These incidents are becoming more common by the day which means government has failed to govern and crime has taken over. Public services, policing and our legal system has crumbled and infested with criminals and corruption. Municipalities are run by criminals. Difficult for some to grasp this as it is easier to live in ignorance.

A culture of corruption and low to zero morality has flourished because a culture of excellence has faded.

The power to change this is in the hands of those who vote for the powers that govern this country.

Ignorance is bliss.
 
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What a sick society we like in that hitmen to rent has become a fashion amongst those politically affiliated.

May those involved in Luyanda Cele's murder feel the force of justice so she can rest in peace.
 
grok said:
Well, the previous regime had a political solution they used to call separate development, but the world didn't like it.

Luckily, now we all subject to the same k@k, we have a responsible government not involved in corruption themselves, actively working very hard figthing crime (lol!) in order to solve the 520 murders per week.


Of course, but look at where we rank in terms of the numbers, the only thing where we're consistently performing at the top ..

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Sure, and such things never happened during apartheid.
 
Jings said:
What a sick society we like in that hitmen to rent has become a fashion amongst those politically affiliated.

May those involved in Luyanda Cele's murder feel the force of justice so she can rest in peace.
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If hitmen to rent were the only problem we would have a chance, because we can at least try to police that, but how do you police family members, people in relationships not to kill each other? Because in most of these murders you find that the perpetrator is someone known to the victim.
 
TheChamp said:
If hitmen to rent were the only problem we would have a chance, because we can at least try to police that, but how do you police family members, people in relationships not to kill each other? Because in most of these murders you find that the perpetrator is someone known to the victim.
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Where do you get your stats from?
 
Jings said:
Where do you get your stats from?
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I never provided any stats, I just said what has been reported many times. I will be honestly surprised of you are hearing what I am saying for the first time. Even beyond the murders by intimate partners some of them occur in places that shouldn't be considered dangerous places, you go to the Post Office to collect a parcel and you are murdered, right there. Some murders are committed by family friends and people known to the victims, people they feel safe around.

It's also likely that even in this instance such a link could appear as the investigations go on.

  • Globally 81,000 women and girls were killed in 2020, around 47,000 of them (58 per cent) died at the hands of an intimate partner or a family member, which equals to a woman or girl being killed every 11 minutes in their home. In 58 per cent of all killings perpetrated by intimate partners or other family members, the victim was a woman or girl.[2]
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Facts and figures: Ending violence against women | UN Women – Headquarters

The availability of data on violence against women and girls has improved considerably in recent years and data on the prevalence of intimate partner violence is now available for at least 161 countries. Please visit our research and data page to better understand how data is crucial to UN...
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Talking about gender-based violence is not enough

The latest crime statistics show that more than 900 women in South Africa were killed in just three months. Activists say a holistic approach is needed to halt these murders.
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Women in South Africa dying violent deaths, often at the hands of their loved ones, occurs with sickening regularity. Just days ago Nozipho Tshem, 72, was killed by her son with a hammer in KwaNobuhle, Eastern Cape, mere hours before dying himself.
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In 2021, Statistics South Africa released a report, Crimes Against Women in South Africa, indicating that one in five women (21%) had experienced physical violence by a partner. In 2015, South Africa’s femicide rate was nearly four times that of the global figure, while a woman was killed every four hours in South Africa in 2016. At least half of them were murdered by an intimate partner.
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rvZA said:
The problem is that no police force anywhere in the world is capable to policing and preventing these crimes. There need to be deterrence too. If there is deterrence, 90% of these crimes will simply not happen. You cannot stop that 10% that does not care about the consequences though. Unfortunately, life imprisonment is not a deterrence. So, you cannot rely on police alone.
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Wow just wow your ignorance astounds me.

You speak as if South Africa have a police force, go and look how many police stations are closed due to staff shortages. Simons Town is one of the most recent ones I can think of.

So you are comparing our non existant police force to a functional one internationally. Now just think of it from this angle, if they struggle to maintain law in a country with a functional police force. Then is it any surprise we have the lawlessness in our country.

24's Gang members posing for pictures in the station comanders car, they arrested him and the next morning a general called to let him go and the detective that detained him transfered.

What part of that is a functional police force ? Once you can enlighten us then we can start comparing other polcie forces.

At the moment we can only compare ourself to Nigeria, Chad, DRC if you want to compare apples with apples.

PS. Its quite telling of anyone trying to defend our current crime status as normal, yeh its normal for a warzone and to African standards.
 
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TheChamp said:
Sure, and such things never happened during apartheid.
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What does that have to do with the current state of affairs in SA?
If you go back to the time where SA was still populated only by natives you could say the same.

You comment has no relevance - try harder please.
 
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